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@Implim - if I remember correctly you were the writer who promised to write a TaeNy fic with tons of teasing and push/pulling which at the time of that convo on TLC many people seemed to want to read (me included ofc) :shifty:
So was it you and do you still intend to write that? :$
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Feb 15 2013, 04:15 PM


@ShipCaptain, Dyslexia, poppy, Taejawline Hii!! Thank you for the warm welcome, this is such a contrast to the last "welcome" I had at LChat, I remember being interrogated by GuaranaGirl, the "If Tiffany offered you her vadge would you dive in" questions... lol Anyway thanks guys and hi to everyone else here too!


Dyslexia, if you have a slow computer processor, do not open
But seriously if Tiffany offered would you?
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Feb 15 2013, 05:11 PM
@Implim - if I remember correctly you were the writer who promised to write a TaeNy fic with tons of teasing and push/pulling which at the time of that convo on TLC many people seemed to want to read (me included ofc) :shifty:
So was it you and do you still intend to write that? :$


Yes, I did say that, but I got side-tracked because of how well Lighthouse was received, so I ended up focusing on that, when I'm finished with that, I'll refocus my energy on writing that... but aren't there other good fics with lots of TaeNy push-pull? I heard Absinthe is a good one.

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Feb 15 2013, 05:35 PM
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Feb 15 2013, 04:15 PM


@ShipCaptain, Dyslexia, poppy, Taejawline Hii!! Thank you for the warm welcome, this is such a contrast to the last "welcome" I had at LChat, I remember being interrogated by GuaranaGirl, the "If Tiffany offered you her vadge would you dive in" questions... lol Anyway thanks guys and hi to everyone else here too!


Dyslexia, if you have a slow computer processor, do not open
But seriously if Tiffany offered would you?


No comment. I leave it to your imagination lol.



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Feb 15 2013, 05:41 PM
I heard Absinthe is a good one.
It isn't.
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I heard Absinthe is a good one.
It isn't.
don't listen to Arti she has high standards, it's a great fic.
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Feb 15 2013, 07:58 PM
don't listen to Arti she has high standards, it's a great fic.
It's obviously not great, then, if it doesn't meet my "high standards". :sica:

It's average at a stretch, but I'd personally give it a 4 out of 10. Cliche plot, horrible character development, awkward writing and complete lack of consistency. I'd go into more detail, but I'd have to re-read it to cite my arguments.
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No comment. I leave it to your imagination lol.



I don't have imagination, help me figure it out x)
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Feb 15 2013, 08:23 PM
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don't listen to Arti she has high standards, it's a great fic.
It's obviously not great, then, if it doesn't meet my "high standards". :sica:

It's average at a stretch, but I'd personally give it a 4 out of 10. Cliche plot, horrible character development, awkward writing and complete lack of consistency. I'd go into more detail, but I'd have to re-read it to cite my arguments.
I like your high standards Arti, so which fics would you recommend me, I don't really care about the main pairing, I just want to know what is worth recommending for you :)
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Feb 15 2013, 09:27 PM
I like your high standards Arti, so which fics would you recommend me, I don't really care about the main pairing, I just want to know what is worth recommending for you :)
Um, I guess this would be a 6/10 for me, and it's a YoonYul with JeTi on the side. I liked the YoonYul, but the JeTi kind of nosedived considering what I expected of it.

I also liked this, since it reminded me of a fairytale, and I'd give that a 7/10.

Then there's ES, which gets either a high 8/10 or a 9/10, but I'm sure you've read that.

Aside from those, there's not much else I like.
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I like your high standards Arti, so which fics would you recommend me, I don't really care about the main pairing, I just want to know what is worth recommending for you :)
Um, I guess this would be a 6/10 for me, and it's a YoonYul with JeTi on the side. I liked the YoonYul, but the JeTi kind of nosedived considering what I expected of it.

I also liked this, since it reminded me of a fairytale, and I'd give that a 7/10.

Then there's ES, which gets either a high 8/10 or a 9/10, but I'm sure you've read that.

Aside from that, there's not much else I like.
:P Hmm for me Jeti actually stole the spotlight, their relationship was more interesting than Yoonyul's. But Arti, I would like to hear more of your opinions on that fic. (It is one of my faves)

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Feb 15 2013, 05:41 PM
I heard Absinthe is a good one.
It isn't.
Ah I've not read it but I've seen people recommending it a lot. Tbh among the more well-known fics in the fandom I have only read WIWFTS and Endless Season (both writers I could tell are well-read, I saw influences from Goethe, Garcia-Marquez, a famous Persian poet and many others). Is there a YulTi equivalent? And hello Arti B-)
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Feb 15 2013, 09:40 PM
:P Hmm for me Jeti actually stole the spotlight, their relationship was more interesting than Yoonyul's. But Arti, I would like to hear more of your opinions on that fic. (It is one of my faves)

I thought it was going to be awesome at first, too, but then I don't feel like it was handled properly.
"Jessica annoys me so I love her!"
Okay, Tiffany.
It was never explained why Jessica could ~understand~ Tiffany whereas Yuri couldn't, too. Or why Yoona suddenly isn't a bitch. Oh, but Taeyeon was adorbs and I wanted to hug her.

The fic was alright? But I feel like they didn't do as much with it as they could've done, and the way it was written made it occasionally seem kind of bland. The characters came off as flat in places and seemed to be more caricatures of stereotypes rather than people in their own right, and there didn't seem to be much depth to them. That's acceptable in some fics, though, it just happened that this one seemed to rely on a depth that wasn't present. Far too much "telling" and not enough "showing".

The author would often say, "okay so Character A feels this way" without actually showing Character A feeling that way. Made me feel a bit disassociated from anything that happened.

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Feb 15 2013, 09:40 PM
Ah I've not read it but I've seen people recommending it a lot. Tbh among the more well-known fics in the fandom I have only read WIWFTS and Endless Season (both writers I could tell are well-read, I saw influences from Goethe, Garcia-Marquez, a famous Persian poet and many others). Is there a YulTi equivalent? And hello Arti B-)


Hi.

Being well-read doesn't necessarily entail being a good writer, just like looking at a lot of paintings doesn't make you a good artist. It just means you know a lot of books. (Oh, in addition, showing influence from classical writers also isn't equivalent to being well-read. You can read very few books but those books just happen to be ones by famous authors, so their influence shows.)
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Ah I've not read it but I've seen people recommending it a lot. Tbh among the more well-known fics in the fandom I have only read WIWFTS and Endless Season (both writers I could tell are well-read, I saw influences from Goethe, Garcia-Marquez, a famous Persian poet and many others). Is there a YulTi equivalent? And hello Arti B-)


Hi.

Being well-read doesn't necessarily entail being a good writer, just like looking at a lot of paintings doesn't make you a good artist. It just means you know a lot of books. (Oh, in addition, showing influence from classical writers also isn't equivalent to being well-read. You can read very few books but those books just happen to be ones by famous authors, so their influence shows.)


It was just something I observed, when I was reading the stories I was thinking, "This line came from that poem," "Didn't Goethe said that?" etc etc, and which made for a different reading experience compared to reading a story that I find a bit more basic. The rest I agree with you, it was an assumption I made because not many young people and I assume these writers are young (the fandom is pretty young) read beyond popular fiction, which is nice to see. Not many people today read at all.

As for good and bad fics, it depends on the reader's preference and level of literacy and their reading intent. It can be pretty subjective, that's my opinion.


@Dyslexia, really no comment lol btw did you drop this on my askbox? I can't think of anyone else who would do something like this.

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I thought it was going to be awesome at first, too, but then I don't feel like it was handled properly.
"Jessica annoys me so I love her!"
Okay, Tiffany.
It was never explained why Jessica could ~understand~ Tiffany whereas Yuri couldn't, too. Or why Yoona suddenly isn't a bitch. Oh, but Taeyeon was adorbs and I wanted to hug her.

The fic was alright? But I feel like they didn't do as much with it as they could've done, and the way it was written made it occasionally seem kind of bland. The characters came off as flat in places and seemed to be more caricatures of stereotypes rather than people in their own right, and there didn't seem to be much depth to them. That's acceptable in some fics, though, it just happened that this one seemed to rely on a depth that wasn't present. Far too much "telling" and not enough "showing".

The author would often say, "okay so Character A feels this way" without actually showing Character A feeling that way. Made me feel a bit disassociated from anything that happened.
SA ah I see what you mean there seems to be a lot of character information being withheld from us (or simply not thought of at all) but I guess that simply adds to the mystery of the characters. By the end of the fic I expected...I don't know, more? there are a lot of things that needed explaining especially Jessica, I accepted her the way she was written because she was oddly cute, but it's true I don't understand why she acted the way she did.

When it comes to Tiffany, I understand not understanding her? I really like the subtle and non drastic progression of her character throughout like the author did not change much about Tiffany just because the readers wanted more fluff.
I'm just waiting for a spin-off where Jeti is explained further and we get to read their relationship in action. Because honestly, I can't find any other fics with such interesting portrayals.
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lol @ all the pretension in here

it's like a room full of auratuses
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Feb 15 2013, 10:08 PM


@Dyslexia, really no comment lol btw did you drop this on my askbox? I can't think of anyone else who would do something like this.

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It was just something I observed, when I was reading the stories I was thinking, "This line came from that poem," "Didn't Goethe said that?" etc etc, and which made for a different reading experience compared to reading a story that I find a bit more basic. The rest I agree with you, it was an assumption I made because not many young people and I assume these writers are young (the fandom is pretty young) read beyond popular fiction, which is nice to see. Not many people today read at all.

As for good and bad fics, it depends on the reader's preference and level of literacy and their reading intent. It can be pretty subjective, that's my opinion.

Yeah, it's a shame, actually. Books are pretty great, and there'll be one that covers a subject you enjoy, so it's not like you won't be able to find something you like. I guess not everyone enjoys reading. :-/

I don't think that there is a subjective standard of quality when it comes to things, though, I'll have to disagree with you there. Whether you like the fic or not will be your opinion, but whether or not it's good is a separate issue. Sure, they're correlated, but you can dislike something that's good, and you can like something that's bad.

For example, Dante's Inferno is a pretty bad game, but I still enjoy playing it.


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SA ah I see what you mean there seems to be a lot of character information being withheld from us (or simply not thought of at all) but I guess that simply adds to the mystery of the characters. By the end of the fic I expected...I don't know, more? there are a lot of things that needed explaining especially Jessica, I accepted her the way she was written because she was oddly cute, but it's true I don't understand why she acted the way she did.

When it comes to Tiffany, I understand not understanding her? I really like the subtle and non drastic progression of her character throughout like the author did not change much about Tiffany just because the readers wanted more fluff.
I'm just waiting for a spin-off where Jeti is explained further and we get to read their relationship in action. Because honestly, I can't find any other fics with such interesting portrayals.


Yeah. I feel like it should've explored more than it did, and more than once I felt myself reaching for something that wasn't there when I was reading it.

I can understand not understanding Tiffany, and I can understand her being retarded over her feelings for Yuri (which I thought was really well done, actually), but I can't understand why Jessica is suddenly ~the exception~ and why Jessica is special but Yuri wasn't, and what makes Jessica so amazing that Tiffany overturns her entire ethos and philosophy in life to the point where she has to escape the country. Like, that makes no fucking sense. It annoyed me how random and dramatic that change was, when Tiffany's character was portrayed excellently prior to that.
I felt that the author was just rushing at that point.
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Feb 15 2013, 11:01 PM
Dante's Inferno is a pretty bad game, but I still enjoy playing it.
I said this to my cousin,not the exact same words,while playing it and if I wasn't a family member he would have caused me some kind of pain.
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Feb 15 2013, 10:58 PM
lol @ all the pretension in here

it's like a room full of auratuses

How so? We're just having a talk about things we're enthusiastic about. :'(

I could take it to PM with ImpLim if you don't want to read it, though.

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Feb 15 2013, 11:06 PM
I said this to my cousin,not the exact same words,while playing it and if I wasn't a family member he would have caused me some kind of pain.


Is he a big fan?
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lol @ all the pretension in here

it's like a room full of auratuses
How so? We're just having a talk about things we're enthusiastic about. :'(

I could take it to PM with ImpLim if you don't want to read it, though.
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I'll spoiler it, then, so you can scroll easier. I don't want to exclude that other Anon from the conversation.
Sorry, I just get very into my literature. Reading is a huge hobby of mine and I really like talking about it. :$
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Yeah. I feel like it should've explored more than it did, and more than once I felt myself reaching for something that wasn't there when I was reading it.

I can understand not understanding Tiffany, and I can understand her being retarded over her feelings for Yuri (which I thought was really well done, actually), but I can't understand why Jessica is suddenly ~the exception~ and why Jessica is special but Yuri wasn't, and what makes Jessica so amazing that Tiffany overturns her entire ethos and philosophy in life to the point where she has to escape the country. Like, that makes no fucking sense. It annoyed me how random and dramatic that change was, when Tiffany's character was portrayed excellently prior to that.
I felt that the author was just rushing at that point.
I thought totally stoned Sooyoung explained it quite well with the whole island analogy :rofl: I felt there was a lot of pushing and pulling between Jeti that makes Tiffany's sudden 'insanity' quite self-explanatory having bits and pieces of this 'blonde alien that speaks her language' becoming so prominent in her mind all of a sudden. Also from how Jessica was introduced, I guess as a reader I assumed that she'd be different without question. Maybe because we were thrown into the middle of Yulti and was expected to just GET their connection, it wasn't explicitly explained, in comparison to reading how Jeti met from the very first moment...I felt a bit more attached to the latter pairing (this always happens when I watch a TV series or anime XD)

But in a deeper context it would have been nice to know how Tiffany was mind-fucked by her parents, it would explain a lot of things like why she treats people the way does etc. then again if Tiffany was explained, the fic wouldn't have been as interesting :P
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That's weird, I thought you were the only anon in my ask box, anyway someone requested a fic with that pic for a prompt >.>
When I looked at it I thought of YulSic, drunken one-night-stand lolol

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Feb 15 2013, 11:01 PM

Yeah, it's a shame, actually. Books are pretty great, and there'll be one that covers a subject you enjoy, so it's not like you won't be able to find something you like. I guess not everyone enjoys reading. :-/

I don't think that there is a subjective standard of quality when it comes to things, though, I'll have to disagree with you there. Whether you like the fic or not will be your opinion, but whether or not it's good is a separate issue. Sure, they're correlated, but you can dislike something that's good, and you can like something that's bad.

For example, Dante's Inferno is a pretty bad game, but I still enjoy playing it.



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Sorry if the minor discussion upset some of you guys, I'm no Auratus, I don't usually spar lengthy word fights with people.
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Sorry if the minor discussion upset some of you guys, I'm no Auratus, I don't usually spar lengthy word fights with people.


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People should be used to my tl;dr by now, but I'll apologise anyway. Sorry, guys! :whistle: Also, I am working on that list I mentioned a few pages back. Feel free to linkspam and I'll add them to my notepad file while I format it.

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I thought totally stoned Sooyoung explained it quite well with the whole island analogy :rofl: I felt there was a lot of pushing and pulling between Jeti that makes Tiffany's sudden 'insanity' quite self-explanatory having bits and pieces of this 'blonde alien that speaks her language' becoming so prominent in her mind all of a sudden. Also from how Jessica was introduced, I guess as a reader I assumed that she'd be different without question. Maybe because we were thrown into the middle of Yulti and was expected to just GET their connection, it wasn't explicitly explained, in comparison to reading how Jeti met from the very first moment...I felt a bit more attached to the latter pairing (this always happens when I watch a TV series or anime XD)

But in a deeper context it would have been nice to know how Tiffany was mind-fucked by her parents, it would explain a lot of things like why she treats people the way does etc. then again if Tiffany was explained, the fic wouldn't have been as interesting :P


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lol @ all the pretension in here

it's like a room full of auratuses
:rofl:

You know, a room full of Aur@tuses would have spared his readers from a lot of pain and drama. Instead of relying on his readers to give him his daily dose of ego trip, the aur@tuses could just sit around in a room, drinking wine, and talk about how awesome they are as writers.
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Road To Heaven chapter, 22!!!!! I love this Taeny fanfic! fangurlemo
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/84394-road-to-heaven-chapter-22-12feb2013/page-10
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omg i keep laughing at "a room full of auratuses" but it's a really horrified frightened laugh
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We like reading and discussing fanfics (sometimes in depth) :unsure: there's nothing wrong with that.
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Feb 16 2013, 03:48 AM
Road To Heaven chapter, 22!!!!! I love this Taeny fanfic! fangurlemo
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/84394-road-to-heaven-chapter-22-12feb2013/page-10
Do you guys like this fic? The grammatical errors really kill it for me (the writer isn't a native English speaker). And then the story got to
this part...
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i love this multishot

http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/86438-dont-leave-me/
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Road To Heaven chapter, 22!!!!! I love this Taeny fanfic! fangurlemo
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/84394-road-to-heaven-chapter-22-12feb2013/page-10
Do you guys like this fic? The grammatical errors really kill it for me (the writer isn't a native English speaker). And then the story got to
this part...
I like it very much (maybe cos I'm not a native English speaker either).
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Road To Heaven chapter, 22!!!!! I love this Taeny fanfic! fangurlemo
http://www.soshified.com/forums/topic/84394-road-to-heaven-chapter-22-12feb2013/page-10
Do you guys like this fic? The grammatical errors really kill it for me (the writer isn't a native English speaker). And then the story got to
this part...
I kinda like it, but I recognize its flaws
the grammatical errors are not that annoying to me and I'm one of those who cringe when reading "your" when it's "you're"

it used to be more fun though, now that they got together, the drama started to drag
also, I didn't really like how they got together, from Tiffany's part I mean. Taeyeon was pretty clear in love with her and Tiffany was all "I'm curious so I wanna make out yay"
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Feb 16 2013, 04:35 PM
It's cute. Nice for light reading..
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A new taeny fanfic

It's really good. The angst and emotions felt so real. A must read :)
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