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Topic Started: Jan 30 2013, 08:10 AM (211,482 Views)
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Aug 4 2013, 07:35 PM
Strongest history of racism? I take some measure of offense to that.

We certainly have our issues and clearly, we have a long way to go in terms of race relations but if you want to talk about racism it exists everywhere, even (and especially) Europe. Our history and economy caused more clashes between races, but America has also dealt with many social and cultural upheavals during its short history. Are Americans any more inherently racist than any other people? Certainly not.

And we should realize that racism and stereotyping goes both ways.
I phrased it wrongly, then. What I meant was that America has had the most prevalent history of racism in recent times, because you're right in saying racism exists everywhere and has for a long time, especially in regards to slavery. From the Arab slave trade of European people from the ancient world and Medieval times to the modern slave trade of people on the African continent, I'm pretty sure every race has been the perpetrator and the victim of the slave trade.

However, I didn't mean to imply Americans were inherently racist, because that's obviously not the case. I meant to imply that racism is more strongly remembered there because it happened within recent history, and the Civil War kind of cemented it in the minds of people, even though that was a primarily economic conflict.
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Aug 4 2013, 07:35 PM
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seriously what will change if you guys just blame Korean people in here
yeah people don't care about it just like other country people don't care about Eastern Asia
you dismissed what I say too. did I say like 'get over it or deal with it' ? I was keep asking you. just complain to them to change it rather than blame Korean people in here.
do you demand to be people change without correct them?
dismissed what exactly? everyone who replied, replied to what you said, while you changed your whole point every time they gave examples as to what you were saying wasn't accurate

and why do you moan about what people think of korean's here? or why moan about what whoever said at some kpop news and gossip community like 0mona? what will change in doing those things too? you are doing the same type of thing.
what are you talking about? :facepalm: :facepalm:
my point was all same. I was just keep asking that you should complain to people in Korea rather than blame Korean people in here in English
that people who you want to complain, they don't read posts in here

0mona was only one site that wrote about blackface in Korean language
you make claims and when people show examples that what you said was wrong you ignored them each time and went back to why post here comment :eyeroll:

don't make claims that koreans don't know what black face is when there are plenty that do, don't say korean's wouldn't complain if those things were happening on korean websites when they have before, etc
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Aug 4 2013, 07:35 PM
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Aug 4 2013, 07:20 PM
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Aug 4 2013, 04:44 PM
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Aug 4 2013, 04:41 PM
You think slavery was caused by americans?
Europeans were the ones shipping hundreds of thousands of african to be slaves

and you're the one talking about USA being the center of the world, as if racism against black people is only an american problem, but happened in all AMERICAS
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you try to excuse their behavior just to fit in to the "korean crowd"
racism against black people is a world problem. and I don't think it has to do with koreans not being aware about it, like I said, maybe they just don't care because they don't live with it. they don't have a variety of races in their country. so everything related to races is like a theory to them
No, I understand Europeans facilitated it, but America is the one with the strongest history of racism, and they're the ones who seem to have had the most history regarding blackface.

And you're right, I should've used *Americas. I was wrong there.
Strongest history of racism? I take some measure of offense to that.

We certainly have our issues and clearly, we have a long way to go in terms of race relations but if you want to talk about racism it exists everywhere, even (and especially) Europe. Our history and economy caused more clashes between races, but America has also dealt with many social and cultural upheavals during its short history. Are Americans any more inherently racist than any other people? Certainly not.

And we should realize that racism and stereotyping goes both ways.
for certain
racism in Italy is HUGE
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Aug 4 2013, 06:12 PM

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so people did costume play movie character for insulting?
people just think Gdeee did mask pack or disguise cream rather than racism
so It also their fault because they didnt' think It's racism?
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so people did costume play movie character for insulting?

Yes, because you can actually hire an actor that is of the ethnic background that's being portrayed.

people just think Gdeee did mask pack or disguise cream rather than racism
so It also their fault because they didnt' think It's racism?


I don't think G's thing was outright blackface, but it still didn't sit well with me and a lot of other people. He has a history with this type of thing. This issue got a global response so you can stop saying we aren't doing anything to educate/stop the problem. His people issued a statement, so they know what blackface is.
da x2 he's done it more than once, used the n word, his whole image is based off of "black music" as he calls it, so lets not act like he's just some innocent korean man who didn't know what these things meant
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they know enough to appropriate black culture and music but are ignorant about black face and disgusting stereotypes? please, it's obvious they don't care, especially because it's not the first time
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seriously what will change if you guys just blame Korean people in here
yeah people don't care about it just like other country people don't care about Eastern Asia
you dismissed what I say too. did I say like 'get over it or deal with it' ? I was keep asking you. just complain to them to change it rather than blame Korean people in here.
do you demand to be people change without correct them?
dismissed what exactly? everyone who replied, replied to what you said, while you changed your whole point every time they gave examples as to what you were saying wasn't accurate

and why do you moan about what people think of korean's here? or why moan about what whoever said at some kpop news and gossip community like 0mona? what will change in doing those things too? you are doing the same type of thing.
what are you talking about? :facepalm: :facepalm:
my point was all same. I was just keep asking that you should complain to people in Korea rather than blame Korean people in here in English
that people who you want to complain, they don't read posts in here

0mona was only one site that wrote about blackface in Korean language
you make claims and when people show examples that what you said was wrong you ignored them each time and went back to why post here comment :eyeroll:

don't make claims that koreans don't know what black face is when there are plenty that do, don't say korean's wouldn't complain if those things were happening on korean websites when they have before, etc
so what you guys will do ? you guys will just complain it in here rather than correct people in Korea?
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^There's no need to mock Korean anon smh. I might not have agreed with everything she was saying, but there were points worth considering and I've definitely learned something from this discussion.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepin here
what are you talking about? :facepalm: :facepalm:
my point was all same. I was just keep asking that you should complain to people in Korea rather than blame Korean people in here in English
that people who you want to complain, they don't read posts in here

0mona was only one site that wrote about blackface in Korean language
you make claims and when people show examples that what you said was wrong you ignored them each time and went back to why post here comment :eyeroll:

don't make claims that koreans don't know what black face is when there are plenty that do, don't say korean's wouldn't complain if those things were happening on korean websites when they have before, etc
so what you guys will do ? you guys will just complain it in here rather than correct people in Korea?
don't see how you can educate people when you just claim they are innocent and couldn't have possibly ever have known any better

what is your complaining in here or what other people say on other outlets doing? nothing, either.
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepin here
what are you talking about? :facepalm: :facepalm:
my point was all same. I was just keep asking that you should complain to people in Korea rather than blame Korean people in here in English
that people who you want to complain, they don't read posts in here

0mona was only one site that wrote about blackface in Korean language
you make claims and when people show examples that what you said was wrong you ignored them each time and went back to why post here comment :eyeroll:

don't make claims that koreans don't know what black face is when there are plenty that do, don't say korean's wouldn't complain if those things were happening on korean websites when they have before, etc
so what you guys will do ? you guys will just complain it in here rather than correct people in Korea?
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shouldn't you be the one doing that?
those more clarified people should help others understand, not excuse their actions, like you're doing
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Quoting limited to 4 levels deepin herein Korea rather than blame Korean people in here in English
that people who you want to complain, they don't read posts in here

0mona was only one site that wrote about blackface in Korean language
you make claims and when people show examples that what you said was wrong you ignored them each time and went back to why post here comment :eyeroll:

don't make claims that koreans don't know what black face is when there are plenty that do, don't say korean's wouldn't complain if those things were happening on korean websites when they have before, etc
so what you guys will do ? you guys will just complain it in here rather than correct people in Korea?
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shouldn't you be the one doing that?
those more clarified people should help others understand, not excuse their actions, like you're doing
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when I said they are innocent ? and just do page catching. I said about 0mona blackface project is good and I wanted to help so, I asked people in here to post about they should change some part. because I don't have any id to post there but no one answered

seriously I don't want to help you guys anymore
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Aug 4 2013, 07:53 PM
for certain
racism in Italy is HUGE
OT now, but this doesn't surprise me. Society tends to get quite a bit fractured when you're experiencing a problem like Italy is. I'd expect this to be the case for most countries in the Eurozone who have been badly hit by this recession.
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do you think that people did blackface for mocking at black people?
they just don't know It's bad.
but you just blame Korean in herelike It's Korean's fault that they don't know it
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yeah people are ignorant but I didn't say like they are innocent
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No need to mock Korean anon, smh.
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when I said they are innocent ? and just do page catching. I said about 0mona blackface project is good and I wanted to help so, I asked people in here to post about they should change some part. because I don't have any id to post there but no one answered

seriously I don't want to help you guys anymore
I have an account in the comm. I can message the mods if you still want to do that (it'll be a little later though because I have work). I understand though if you no longer want to.
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yeah people are ignorant but I didn't say like they are innocent
always saying koreans don't know is pretty much the same thing lol seems like you are trying to excuse what they did. the example was given that some korean people have used those things to be mean and for insults, t1ger jk has talked about what korean netizens said about his son is one example that would be easy to find out about, so clearly some do actually know better so you making out they didn't isn't true in every case and you could never come back with a rebuttal when anyone said those type of things

you also seem to think people in this thread have some type of like vendetta against korean people when people here or any other site have only been talking and reacting to things that have actually happened and i don't see how its bad to view those actions by geedee or any other idol doing those type of things as wrong either
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how can this was excuse when I said that you should complain to them directly because they will not read your posts in here
and just search about geedee case on Korean web.. people really just think that It's mask pack or disguise cream



and anon above. yes I no longer want to do, thanks anyway
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Aug 3 2013, 08:58 PM
Anyone thinks Krystal is kinda full of herself? she gives me that vibe
Sulli gives me bitchy vibe
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If we're gonna talk about kpop maknaes that give off bitchy vibes, we have to mention das0m from seestar and of course jeeyun from terror. For some reason Jungli don't seems as bad in comparison but maybe that's just my bias talking.
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Hyuna also made an IG account like 2 days ago: hyuna_aa
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Aug 4 2013, 10:38 PM
Hyuna also made an IG account like 2 days ago: hyuna_aa
For some reason, I read that as "hyunas_ass"
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so they are lesbian lol?
Yup. And that's Nara (from Hello Venus) playing the doctor. :wub:
Lol, this MV is kinda like K.W!ll's but his was so sad omg.



IA with Artichoke and other anon(s). Some Asian ppl do have freckles lol. My mom and my uncle have freckles all over their neck and body. But ever since my family moved to America it disappeared bleh. I'm guessing it DOES have something to do with genetic and maybe the weather too.
I don't get the MV
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Anyone know how eff(x) are doing on the charts or with this comeback in general? I've kind of been out of the loop the latest few weeks.
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Anyone know how eff(x) are doing on the charts or with this comeback in general? I've kind of been out of the loop the latest few weeks.
they haven't been included on the goan chart yet
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...victoria? :blink:

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so they are lesbian lol?
Yup. And that's Nara (from Hello Venus) playing the doctor. :wub:
Lol, this MV is kinda like K.W!ll's but his was so sad omg.



IA with Artichoke and other anon(s). Some Asian ppl do have freckles lol. My mom and my uncle have freckles all over their neck and body. But ever since my family moved to America it disappeared bleh. I'm guessing it DOES have something to do with genetic and maybe the weather too.
I don't get the MV
da x2 :huh:
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My loves. :wub:

And miraculously sm decided to sub the video by themselves. It's witchcraft I tell you. :shock:
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so they are lesbian lol?
Yup. And that's Nara (from Hello Venus) playing the doctor. :wub:
Lol, this MV is kinda like K.W!ll's but his was so sad omg.



IA with Artichoke and other anon(s). Some Asian ppl do have freckles lol. My mom and my uncle have freckles all over their neck and body. But ever since my family moved to America it disappeared bleh. I'm guessing it DOES have something to do with genetic and maybe the weather too.
I don't get the MV
two girl are couple. they have couple watch
but clerk girl cheated on doc. san gave her a bracelet and they started date. later she said to san. she want to break up

san went to doc and told about story of someone he knows. but actually It's his story
probably san know that doc and his gf is couple
It seems his gf gave doc a bracelet. there is a scene that san check doc's bracelet

and doc goes home. talk about her patient to her gf "that's so pathetic. isn't it childish (claim It's not their story but story of someone they konw)
yeah. and that story was her gf's story lol
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and there is English subtitles in that vidoe. turn caption on
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whos dis :blinkwide:
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...victoria? :blink:

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:nosebleed: :boobs:

i don't like the hairstyle,but who cares!

she's the NCG :bleedingeyes:
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i'm pretty sure he's gay
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Dare i say... it looks and sounds kinda nice?
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So sunm! Former WG member is debuting solo this month. :gasp:
I was surprised when I heard.
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