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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 10:18 AM Post #771 |
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sorry if this was already discussed not sure, but: lots of potential if you know what I mean
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 12:19 PM Post #772 |
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Nicole from Kara still remembers the first anti comments she read about herself when she first debuted, she even remembers their usernames. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrXlBTBXejc |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 02:02 PM Post #773 |
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Ah-ha! http://forums.allkpop.com/threads/why-does-2pm-and-other-jyp-idols-contact-jay.36917/page-2 This is the explanation that seems most reasonable to me. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 02:56 PM Post #774 |
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dont mean to be a hater, while the song's pretty catchy, i find their concept is somehow forced. Despite their attempt on edginess, they just looked like girly girls with short hair, no tomboy/androgynous appeal whatsoever. I reckon being tomboyish/laid back is more about the way a person carry themselves (i.e walk, talk, sit etc), and not just all about looks. A girl could have long hair and still be out pimping the neighborhood lol. So yeah, just my 2 cents :wink: |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 03:03 PM Post #775 |
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nah thats just anti jyp people there are tons of those things with different stories all over the place jyp always said he was coming back it wasn't until their second comeback after the scandal they announced he wasn't coming back cause he admitted to doing something really bad they they couldn't forgive him for |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 03:07 PM Post #776 |
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take this with a grain of salt, but my korean friend told me that he impregnate one of the members of some girl group, so yeah out....capiche...done! *shrugs* |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 03:09 PM Post #777 |
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The Jay/2:00 saga is really damn interesting reading. I've been clicking around the internet for hours. It's even worse than T-Errorgate. Part 1: This is what I've gathered. 6PM were a bunch of assholes according to their sasaeng (don't know if true), but I'm leaning toward them being on bad terms with Jay even before the scandal. They didn't respect his authority as leader, and they talked smack about him because his Korean sucked and he didn't get the culture. (Imagine Tiffany being the leader of SNSD instead of Taeyeon.) Jay and Khoon are the ones that were bullied and Jo Kw0n was Jay's only friend at JYP. There's some Hwayoung-ish evidence to that effect. I've seen the evidence and it's more or less there. I'm going with the story that JYP found out he blabbed about his contract on Myspace and used the "Korea is gay" incident as an excuse to kick him out of the group. Part 2: Jay signs up with new company. New company was in talks with network for Jay to play a part in a drama. JYP threatens to boycott network (so that his artists will never stop appearing on said network's programs). Jay = cockblocked by JYP. Then JYP, the guy, was on a talk show and he talked about Jay, said some things that implied there was some scandalous reason for Jay getting canned. CEO of New Company cusses him out on Twitter (lol) and issues a letter to JYP calling his bluff. New Company says, "If there was a scandal behind it, tell us what it is, say it out loud, or you're just a lying bastard." JYP's response, "We can't say." Sounds to me like this Jay P@rk fellow is just one terribly misunderstood guy, and it doesn't help that JYP was out to end his career in the KPop industry. It also doesn't help that he has all inked up, thinks he's black, and cusses in his music. It's no surprise every other person in the room thinks he got fired from 2:00 because he's Hyun@'s babydaddy or he's addicted to drugs or something. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 03:14 PM Post #778 |
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That's not the story I believe. JYP had a chance to just tell people what it was that he supposedly did to warrant getting kicked out. Jay's new company called him out and told him to just say it. He had nothing to say. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 03:30 PM Post #779 |
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Even though it's something I do for sport, I don't actually care enough about this to have an argument with anyone about it. If he were a girl, maybe. It's just crazy how JYP screwed him. Until I actually started reading things, I was under the same impression as everybody else. This is some KPop guy, so he must have been doing something really bad. They don't prematurely terminate contracts no matter how big an asshole their artists are. It's also scary how so many people repeating the same unfounded rumors can suddenly make it seem more real. Anyway, 2:00 screwed themselves royally. When I read that they even rivaled BB when they first debuted, I snorted. Good luck to this kid. He seemed like an okay guy when he was shooting zombies with KevJumb@. Wasn't haughty or condescending, seemed humble enough. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 04:44 PM Post #780 |
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well it only clicked for me after I checked their other vids like making of etc, not this one where like ppl pointed out the handheld mic ruins their choreos. anyway I usually go totally at the amber-tomboy type but these girls are hot hahabut yeah, posted this video because of the song |
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| Artichoke | Apr 14 2013, 04:57 PM Post #781 |
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For some reason, they look really weird to me. Maybe it's the beyond ridiculous styling. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 05:07 PM Post #782 |
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i don't even like 2*m or j*p but all of what you posted is bs lol there was no proof them him being bullied at all all this omg the group and the company hated jay and wanted him out from the start are all from anti's everyone you posted came from anti 2*m people with nothing to back their claims up |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 05:20 PM Post #783 |
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This part is public: New Company says, "If there was a scandal behind it, tell us what it is, say it out loud, or you're just a lying bastard." JYP's response, "We can't say." Search for it on AKP. It's in the news, as in an actual journalistic document. I don't really care if this kid was bullied by the other guys. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. It's irrelevant. Fact is JYP never could provide a reason for why Jay was canned, and that is even when Jay's new company publicly provoked and challenged JYP to provide the reason. All JYP did was make it sound like he did something bad, a bad enough thing in order to placate the fans' bitching. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 05:23 PM Post #784 |
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SA Here, article. New Company calls JYP's bluff http://www.allkpop.com/2010/12/sidus-hq-defends-jay-park-against-claims-made-by-park-jin-young JYP backs down like a little bitch http://www.allkpop.com/2010/12/jype-responds-to-sidushqs-message-regarding-jay-park |
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| Doucheyeon | Apr 14 2013, 05:37 PM Post #785 |
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Nobody knows the truth tbh. But yes that bullying part was made by anti. You know how anti always show "proof" a.k.a screencaps. I remember checking the video where the screencap was taken from and I see no bullying. :lmao: JwhyPee wanted to cockblock j4y, too bad jwhyp is too gay for that. ot, Don't you think JwhyP is gay? |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 05:45 PM Post #786 |
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I don't know if he's gay. His sex life isn't my business. I wouldn't put it past a guy who thinks he looks good in see-through-crotched pants to ruin a dumb American kid's career just for the pleasure of knowing he can. This industry is controlled by a bunch of old Asian men driven purely by their egos. We already know he didn't do anything illegal. JYP said as much. He did something really wrong, but it wasn't illegal. Knowing the kinda shit that male idols do in this industry, do you think there's anything legal he can even do that's that much worse than what every male idol is already doing? For me personally, I'm not gonna believe any bullshit spoken against this guy anymore, no matter how many Koreans say so. |
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| Doucheyeon | Apr 14 2013, 05:47 PM Post #787 |
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:drunk2: I finally find s1 with the same opinion. My thought of this video: - They should get rid of that heels and the construction glasses too. It doesn't match the bad girl concept and outfit. - Beats are nice but the raps are weak. It sound like a normal singing with hard drop in the background. - Some members look like a girly girl with short hair. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 05:58 PM Post #788 |
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da but you believe all the all the shit that anti's wrote about the company/group lol |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 06:05 PM Post #789 |
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I believe what I want. I read everything, looked at all their evidence, and drew my own conclusions. I'm not 100% sure about everything, but I have at least a somewhat clear picture of what went down. What I know for sure: If he had a good reason to fire Jay, he would have made it public when the Sidus CEO called out his bs. Sidus CEO straightup called him a liar, and he still didn't answer the challenge. Sidus CEO is somebody who actually knows what went down, and he believes Jay didn't do anything bad to deserve getting kicked out of his group. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 06:12 PM Post #790 |
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then why even mention that stuff lol jay admitted himself he did do something that caused j*p to not accept him back, there are interviews of him admitting it though ofc like j*p nobody says what it was there are plenty of people laughing at what his company said cause it went against what jay himself admitted to and right before his first solo album dropped he wrote on his website sorry to j*p and 2*pm for all they went through cause him leaving and his mistakes they got more hate then he got over it when the caps first came out it was ridiculous but the moment he said he was going to america a few days later everyone went back on his side 2*pm got the hate from then on when they didn't do anything. i dont think his myspace stuff was wrong either but him leaving wasn't their fault it was the netizens being nut cases that drove him to want to take some time out |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 06:13 PM Post #791 |
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you should go read some jay interviews then since he said himself he did do something bad outside of the myspace stuff lol |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 06:17 PM Post #792 |
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I honestly think he did that because he didn't want to get on JYP's bad side and get shut out of the industry. He just wanted to move on with his life and so he just went along with JYP's story of what happened and pretended to be the bad guy. Good PR move on his part. /shrugs |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 06:19 PM Post #793 |
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I didn't say it was 2:00's fault. They don't make the decisions. |
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| Guest | Apr 14 2013, 06:19 PM Post #794 |
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lol ok |
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 02:20 AM Post #795 |
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op here don't worry, I got your back Doucheyeon :wink: |
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| Ihla | Apr 15 2013, 04:02 AM Post #796 |
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People criticise IGAB's lyrics as the worst ever (not that I blame them), but praise the lyrics for P$y's new song to the heavens. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 05:30 AM Post #797 |
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Something I found hilarious: "SM fixes all their artists up like robots and makes their money that way while YG takes ugly kids and media plays them up as talented artists... as for JYP, he takes perfectly talented kids and tries to mold them into what he selfishly wants and ends up failing them all." -Knetizen SM Kids YG Kids JYP Kids
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 05:31 AM Post #798 |
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^^^ SA I just realized something. If JYP and YG merged, their roster would still be smaller than SM's. Lol. |
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| Peroxide | Apr 15 2013, 07:07 AM Post #799 |
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i think sm is the least "close" company. i think there are certain groups that are close to each other (s00j00 and snsd, snsd and fecks), but there's no group that's close to every single act (s00j00 and fecks??? fx and db$k). all the other companies seem close like family. yg, in general, seems close-knit. they bond over their large egos and "swag". jyp seems like a close family too. when fei was in the masterchef finale, other jyp acts came to support her, not just her members. and the literal yg and jyp ceos seem more chill with their artists. maybe it's the HUGE age gap, but the sooman-sm artists relationship seems very professional. (unless you count the weird moment in "i am" where $ooman hugs all of his artists. that was just awkward.) but then again, we barely see $ooman interact with his artists compared to jyp and yg. this picture kinda explains it. ![]() loling at minh0's awkward expression. obvs they're not awkward now, but still. |
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 07:55 AM Post #800 |
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not a huge fan of the song, but maybe it's because p$y is known as a comedic artist so his lyrics are accepted as satirical? i remember reading a lot of stuff pointing out the satire and social commentary in g$ video |
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 08:13 AM Post #801 |
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Has this pic been posted here If not here you gow
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 08:35 AM Post #802 |
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t-@r@ teaser.... actually im loving it :beam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qnJR73YCtYg |
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| Taetaemisfitgoddess | Apr 15 2013, 09:51 AM Post #803 |
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Who is this face seems oddly familiar but its not coming to me? |
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 10:28 AM Post #804 |
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I thought for a second it's Jiyeon and Eunjung haha, but nah it's some girl from Nine Muses I think |
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| Guest | Apr 15 2013, 11:27 AM Post #805 |
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I don't know what he really intended but I think Gangnam Style is a satire about the Gangnam I don't think that gentlemen lyrics is bad because It isn't serious psy said gentlemen IS a club song. he just wrote lyrics for club song and he is really good at playing on words. especially his debut song 'bird' is so funny words in gentlemen are pretty funny too. he used some dialects. and wet psy, west side lol but IGAB is not even funny.. just embarrassing |
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at the amber-tomboy type but these girls are hot haha









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