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Topic Started: May 11 2013, 08:53 PM (57,098 Views)
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I like the new changes. It makes it a lot easier to view on my phone.
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May 19 2013, 07:57 PM
What color do you see? Like the background? It's still blue to me. Honestly, after the recent changes it's looking very similar to the old theme, I think the only difference now are the quote boxes, they are a little grayish instead of white. And quoting pics are smaller, which is a nice improvement.

Do regs see the theme differently?

I don't like the changed quotebox. I don't like the weird image quoting. I would really just rather change it back to the old theme because I prefer everything about it.


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May 19 2013, 07:59 PM
Once again, it's not about making you like what you do not. It's fine if you don't, really. But if everyone who feels annoyed by the smallest of things and gets affected by emotional stir a couple of people are creating instead of saying what's wrong with the new one, new one won't be improved and more people would end up in the 'old' camp than they would if we actually worked on some optimal solution. I need the theme that works not for everyone but for obvious majority. And I need minority to know well enough what majority is seeing.

This is probably the most controversial moment this forum will have in a long while. But there can be other changes too. For example I may try to make it more mobile-friendly. Developing it for 2 themes at once would be hell. And what if one likes light boxes, another wants purple but small images, next one wants lighter text in quotes, then someone wants only last quote to show etc... technically I can make it happen for each of them but it just wouldn't be possible to maintain. I need to draw lines somewhere. And I can't act on every wish by people who aren't acting adequately. It's just setting a very bad precedent.

You are free to hate me, Arti, as I said. This is not the way to make me go out of my way for you. There are a lot of things you can't change on this forum. The color of quoting box will be one of them. For 1 week.
I just want the old theme. I don't hate or care about anything else. I just want the option enabled so that I can choose the old theme.

That is all that I want.
Failing that, I want a deadline by which you'll enable the choice.

I don't like change, I don't like this theme, I don't like using it, and I want to know when I can use the old one again.

I don't know why you'd think I'd hate you.
I just want to change themes.
That's the only thing I care about in this conversation.

You're going to enable it anyway.
Why not enable it now?

That's what I don't understand.
I've already told you what I dislike about it.
I dislike the changed quote box. I dislike the images. I dislike changed quoting system.

I dislike everything you've changed about it.
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Well, Artichoke, in this new theme people can't see when you edit your posts. Isn't that a nice feature? ;)
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May 19 2013, 08:07 PM
Well, Artichoke, in this new theme people can't see when you edit your posts. Isn't that a nice feature? ;)
It's irrelevant to me because I don't care about it.

In fact, I prefer the editing shown.
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May 19 2013, 07:58 PM
Not going into xyz or whatever because be careful what you say, might get banned/targeted.
I said I would not be using any moderation options against anyone here and it will remain this way. There's no need to be paranoid. I mean it's alright to be paranoid in the open. I will not fight back, at least not using the weapons you don't have.
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May 19 2013, 08:08 PM
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May 19 2013, 08:07 PM
Well, Artichoke, in this new theme people can't see when you edit your posts. Isn't that a nice feature? ;)
It's irrelevant to me because I don't care about it.

In fact, I prefer the editing shown.
You can activate it, just click the option.
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Well, Artichoke, in this new theme people can't see when you edit your posts. Isn't that a nice feature? ;)
It's irrelevant to me because I don't care about it.

In fact, I prefer the editing shown.
You can click on a little box when you want others to see you edited your posts.
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May 19 2013, 08:09 PM
You can activate, just click the option.
I don't care about it enough to enable it. It's completely irrelevant to my posting experience.
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Lol I guess trying to calm her down with candy wouldn't work either.
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May 19 2013, 07:59 PM
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May 19 2013, 07:39 PM
Sometimes le Arti annoys me but this time I agree with her, in fact I am now very confused...

If the "plan" is basically for everyone to have the chance to have the old layout or this new one at will (in one week) then why weren't both options just made available from the start? What is then the purpose of testing things out if its not going to be a change for the entire forum?

If its like this then I don't see the reason why those of use who already know don't like it have to test anything. If we were talking about either/or then I would get it but even then I would've liked a proposal, a vote and then an implementation.
Once again, it's not about making you like what you do not. It's fine if you don't, really. But if everyone who feels annoyed by the smallest of things and gets affected by emotional stir a couple of people are creating instead of saying what's wrong with the new one, new one won't be improved and more people would end up in the 'old' camp than they would if we actually worked on some optimal solution. I need the theme that works not for everyone but for obvious majority. And I need minority to know well enough what majority is seeing.

This is probably the most controversial moment this forum will have in a long while. But there can be other changes too. For example I may try to make it more mobile-friendly. Developing it for 2 themes at once would be hell. And what if one likes light boxes, another wants purple but small images, next one wants lighter text in quotes, then someone wants only last quote to show etc... technically I can make it happen for each of them but it just wouldn't be possible to maintain. I need to draw lines somewhere. And I can't act on every wish by people who aren't acting adequately. It's just setting a very bad precedent.

You are free to hate me, Arti, as I said. This is not the way to make me go out of my way for you. There are a lot of things you can't change on this forum. The color of quoting box will be one of them. For 1 week.
There is no difference to what you are saying here. What you are saying is you forced the change for one week so more people will like it and not be swayed by their "emotions" or the "emotions" of others into hating it or not.

But frankly and without trying to be disrespectful, who the hell are you to force us NOT to be swayed by our "emotions" or the "emotions" of others? And then you say the reason why is basically to make your life easier in the future when you try to make other changes because less variety = easier for you and your changes. Well, that's not our fault or problem as unpleasant as it may sound.

None of these reasons are valid reasons to not have made both layouts an option from the beginning, we are not cattle to be herded where you want us to. We are human, and thank whatever deity we are and that includes emotions and being swept by them. Because guess what? Maybe some would have had a knee-jerk reaction of hate but maybe afterward they would had tried it out for curiosity or perhaps because other users who were not forced to change spoke so well of it.

And those who did change into the new one would have given you the feedback you wanted anyhow.
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May 19 2013, 08:11 PM
Lol I guess trying to calm her down with candy wouldn't work either.
I really hate it when things I'm familiar with are abruptly changed by factors completely outside of my control.
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May 19 2013, 08:10 PM
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May 19 2013, 08:09 PM
You can activate, just click the option.
I don't care about it enough to enable it. It's completely irrelevant to my posting experience.
Ok, just saying you have the option.
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May 19 2013, 08:12 PM
Ok, just saying you have the option.
I know. I appreciate having the option.
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May 19 2013, 07:59 PM
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May 19 2013, 07:39 PM
Sometimes le Arti annoys me but this time I agree with her, in fact I am now very confused...

If the "plan" is basically for everyone to have the chance to have the old layout or this new one at will (in one week) then why weren't both options just made available from the start? What is then the purpose of testing things out if its not going to be a change for the entire forum?

If its like this then I don't see the reason why those of use who already know don't like it have to test anything. If we were talking about either/or then I would get it but even then I would've liked a proposal, a vote and then an implementation.
Once again, it's not about making you like what you do not. It's fine if you don't, really. But if everyone who feels annoyed by the smallest of things and gets affected by emotional stir a couple of people are creating instead of saying what's wrong with the new one, new one won't be improved and more people would end up in the 'old' camp than they would if we actually worked on some optimal solution. I need the theme that works not for everyone but for obvious majority. And I need minority to know well enough what majority is seeing.

This is probably the most controversial moment this forum will have in a long while. But there can be other changes too. For example I may try to make it more mobile-friendly. Developing it for 2 themes at once would be hell. And what if one likes light boxes, another wants purple but small images, next one wants lighter text in quotes, then someone wants only last quote to show etc... technically I can make it happen for each of them but it just wouldn't be possible to maintain. I need to draw lines somewhere. And I can't act on every wish by people who aren't acting adequately. It's just setting a very bad precedent.

You are free to hate me, Arti, as I said. This is not the way to make me go out of my way for you. There are a lot of things you can't change on this forum. The color of quoting box will be one of them. For 1 week.
I need the theme that works not for everyone but for obvious majority. you had it and you disabled it

Developing it for 2 themes at once would be hell. then develop for your new theme

I need to draw lines somewhere. your drawing your lines all over the other users dignity right now
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May 19 2013, 08:04 PM
I like the new changes. It makes it a lot easier to view on my phone.


some admin logout :eyeroll:
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May 19 2013, 08:04 PM
I like the new changes. It makes it a lot easier to view on my phone.


some admin logout :eyeroll:
LOL, we were always here.
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I like the new changes. It makes it a lot easier to view on my phone.


some admin logout :eyeroll:
:rofl: :rofl: I doubt it but hahaha
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She's trying to make this place accessible for phones and tablets. Jessisus.
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I like the new changes. It makes it a lot easier to view on my phone.


some admin logout :eyeroll:
:rofl: :rofl: I doubt it but hahaha
Whatever you say.
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this is kind of entertaining tbh

:popcorn: ~*~drama~*~
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I like the new changes. It makes it a lot easier to view on my phone.


some admin logout :eyeroll:
No, I'm not an admin... is it so hard to believe for someone to like the change?
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:rofl: :rofl: I doubt it but hahaha
Whatever you say.
I think you misquoted/misread baby can't really see shit in the new quoting boxes hmm? :rofl:
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Whatever you say.
I think you misquoted/misread baby can't really see shit in the new quoting boxes hmm? :rofl:
Shit I thought you were quoting Abc. Nevermind.

STRESS.
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Lol I guess trying to calm her down with candy wouldn't work either.
I really hate it when things I'm familiar with are abruptly changed by factors completely outside of my control.
I understand that, but you need to see the bigger picture. The forum needed some changes, especially regarding the quoting/pics system. They need to test this with as many users as possible so they can have our feedback and see what works and doesn't work so there can be improvements that satisfy the majority. Let's just use it for a week and give our recommendations along the way.
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Lol I guess trying to calm her down with candy wouldn't work either.
I really hate it when things I'm familiar with are abruptly changed by factors completely outside of my control.
I understand that, but you need to see the bigger picture. The forum needed some changes, especially regarding the quoting/pics system. They need to test this with as many users as possible so they can have our feedback and see what works and doesn't work so there can be improvements that satisfy the majority. Let's just use it for a week and give our recommendations along the way.
What is this the government? Are we mice?

We should have the option between the two from day 1, if people didn't really migrate to the new one then so be it, that's them apples. But not this, not this way.
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May 19 2013, 08:22 PM
I understand that, but you need to see the bigger picture. The forum needed some changes, especially regarding the quoting/pics system. They need to test this with as many users as possible so they can have our feedback and see what works and doesn't work so there can be improvements that satisfy the majority. Let's just use it for a week and give our recommendations along the way.
I dislike the lack of dramatic colour contrast in the quote boxes. It's impractical and makes it difficult to see and it doesn't fit in aesthetically with the rest of the theme, which makes it unattractive to me.
I dislike the randomly bigger page numbers for the forum section because it makes it look clunky and awkward and doesn't remain consistent with the rest of the page and it's unattractive to me.
I dislike the bolding of the SNSD thread because I think it looks out of place and seems unnecessary. Either pin the topic to that sub-thread or leave it as it is.
I disliked the awkward quoting system but they fixed that.
I'm ambivalent on the removal of the Edited tag because I didn't see that enough to make it a familiar experience for me on this forum. Also they added an option to keep it on, so this is irrelevant.

Most of all, I dislike the fact that they implemented all of this change and then refuse to allow me the ability to change it back.

Any change severely agitates me. Any change that I have no control over reverting pushes me into heavily distressed territory.
And this change isn't in any way good.
The last change was good.

I've given feedback.
Will the option to choose be enabled now?
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Ok, you dislike everything. Great. :rofl:
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May 19 2013, 08:31 PM
Ok, you dislike everything. Great. :rofl:
That's why I want to change back. I think the older theme did things better.

I explained why I disliked those things.
That was my feedback.

I want the option to change back now, please.
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May 19 2013, 08:26 PM
I dislike the lack of dramatic colour contrast in the quote boxes. It's impractical and makes it difficult to see.


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i'll set you guys a bill from my oculist
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It's not only your feedback we need, Arti. Wait a week.
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I understand that, but you need to see the bigger picture. The forum needed some changes, especially regarding the quoting/pics system. They need to test this with as many users as possible so they can have our feedback and see what works and doesn't work so there can be improvements that satisfy the majority. Let's just use it for a week and give our recommendations along the way.
What is this the government? Are we mice?

We should have the option between the two from day 1, if people didn't really migrate to the new one then so be it, that's them apples. But not this, not this way.
They should have never told you that there could be an option between the two, because right now you would be working along with everyone to improve the forum instead of being pigheaded fools stuck in past with things that weren't working.

Instead of throwing childish fits demanding the other theme why don't you say what needs to be changed in this new one?
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May 19 2013, 08:34 PM
It's not only your feedback we need, Arti. Wait a week.
When do I have to wait until?

Why can't the option just be enabled? This is ridiculous.
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We are going in circles.
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What is this the government? Are we mice?

We should have the option between the two from day 1, if people didn't really migrate to the new one then so be it, that's them apples. But not this, not this way.
They should have never told you that there could be an option between the two, because right now you would be working along with everyone to improve the forum instead of being pigheaded fools stuck in past with things that weren't working.

Instead of throwing childish fits demanding the other theme why don't you say what needs to be changed in this new one?
everybody who's been to tlc knows that zetaboards supports multiple themes bitch, your argument is invalid. can't believe that I'm teaming up with Arti for this drama because I sometimes can't stand her too, but at least she's got a point
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We are going in circles.


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