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Topic Started: May 11 2013, 08:53 PM (57,092 Views)
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thanks! :hug:

I liked :bigeyes: and :pain: as well but without :pain: people have resorted to just randomly yelling aaaaaarggggghhhhhhhh and i find that quite funny
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May 20 2013, 12:36 AM
thanks! :hug:

I liked :bigeyes: and :pain: as well but without :pain: people have resorted to just randomly yelling aaaaaarggggghhhhhhhh and i find that quite funny
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xyz, I don't know if this is possible but can you make the clock adjust to the user timezone? Thanks.
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May 20 2013, 12:20 AM
After pc'ing all this thread I'm with ya sister. :thumbsup:
Believe, I wouldn't call someone out if I didn't have a good reason...
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Just pagecatched everything, and oh my god guys. =_=

I guess drama like this really tests the skills of the mods. I really liked how xyz handled the situation, especially under the conditions she had to endure (crazy regs and anons). :hug:
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Just pagecatched everything, and oh my god guys. =_=

I guess drama like this really tests the skills of the mods. I really liked how xyz handled the situation, especially under the conditions she had to endure (crazy regs and anons). :hug:
Girl it's ok. we know you mean arti. Just say it
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I haven't being here for a couple of days, and some nice changes already happened. I just want to say that I really like how the forum looks now, is cleaner and much faster to browse now. It happened in a good time for me, because my pc died and I'm usingusing my phone to browse.Thanks, admins.
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May 20 2013, 06:59 AM
Girl it's ok. we know you mean arti. Just say it
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Seriously.
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Ok, after a nice pagecatch today I gotta say again that I'm really loving the changes. Everything looks clean and smooth, like Taeyeon's baby skin. And screw the eyelash curler, quoted tiny pics are definitely the world's greatest invention!

Great job xyz, and thank you and all the admins/mods for your infinite patience with us.  :grouphug:
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May 20 2013, 12:55 AM
xyz, I don't know if this is possible but can you make the clock adjust to the user timezone? Thanks.
It may prove to be a little problematic, anon since ZB does not quite have the functionality for that. It uses 1 board-wide timezone setting that can only be adjusted by registered user in her preferences. I wrote it down my ToDo list, so if I see a possibility to do it, I'll definitely come back to this question.




I have ironed out a couple of bugs since yesterday, including color/size issues with page numbers in topic list view. There is close to 2000 lines of code in the theme's style alone and there always a risk that changing or adding something will go into conflict with something from before, so not everything you see is 100% intentional. If you see something that looks off like that, please make a screenshot and let me know.

Also users of the old theme could have noticed that quoting depth level was set to 4 board-wide. This was made to allow the users of new theme to get 3 clean and fully functional levels of quoting. I'm hiding the 4rth one since it always contains an error and looks funky. Please pay attention to how many levels you actually need to see in order to know what's going on. If you notice that 2 instead of 3 we have now would do more often than not, please make it known in this thread. If the interest for this is there, we could have a discussion & poll on this in the future. But things should feel more bearable now either way. For the users of the old theme 3-4 should not make much of a difference since it's along the lines of what we always had here and on lchat.




Btw, thanks for positive feedback and support, girls. It was a tough night but much better morning thanks to you -)
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I came back form vacations and found this, well after pagecathing I get used to the new theme, I am going to use it for a couple of days and decide at the end of the week if not I will change to the older one.

A couple of things I will like to the mods /admin to have in mind:
* Please never impose anything, I get the reason why xyz disable the old theme and just let the new one, but doing this is a source for problems as you already saw, you as mods of a democratic forums have to always gave a choice for all the user to make, if we want to try or not is an option, remember that.

* For the mods please dont use witty comments or repplies to the anons even if it is the yoonsic spammer who I dont like btw, it makes you look like little kids with power. The mods should have tolerance an treat all equal, that is why they are mods, we dont have another future windmill or rei here, that was the reason we migrate!

* For the anons and regs, don't cry at the minimal change please first try it and after try it a coupe of times then proceed to say your comments about, but not make it a telenovela, seriously it was like when I have to replace a friend in a school and the little kids where whinning about everything and don't understand reasons...

Overall, I hope the changes will be for the better of this community

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Thank you for the constructive criticism anon!
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Just pagecatched everything, and oh my god guys. =_=

I guess drama like this really tests the skills of the mods. I really liked how xyz handled the situation, especially under the conditions she had to endure (crazy regs and anons). :hug:
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May 20 2013, 03:34 PM
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Girl it's ok. we know you mean arti. Just say it
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OP

I didn't think Artichoke was the only reg that acted out of norm. :)

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hey I just wanna take it back what I said about the change in the quoting of pics and gifs. at first I didn't welcome the change
but now I actually think it was a great idea
especially now that I don't have to look at these huge ass repetitive yoonsic gifs being quoted forever

thanks admins!
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I guess we should better take it here:

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May 23 2013, 03:09 AM
Are they pushing it down people's throat though? They keep to their own conversations/quote thread and they don't butt in on other convos that happen around Jessica ships (jeti, yulsic).

That antithesis comment did make me mentally facepalm, I can see how that can be seen as a random dig like "thank god our ship is so amazing, those other ships are pathetic." But I didn't even fully read that comment when it was made in the main thread. Read it fully for the first time in this thread and just recognized it because the word antithesis that managed to catch my attention as I scrolled past it in the main thread.
Posting something over and over is also a form of pushing. Just imagine someone was spamming same picture of same member for weeks. That would be annoying. Things that are done over the top are annoying and it has nothing to do with shipping even.

I'm not saying that yoonsic shippers should be forbidden to do that. Not at all. But if they expect certain tolerance from people in the thread, they should have some tolerance for what people are saying as well. Right now they are a bit like that annoying kid who does everything to piss everyone off and then runs and calls adults whenever someone calls him a name. I believe that adults should be taking responsibility for things they do.

Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for moderation here, so I'm saying all this a personal opinion. You don't have to hold it any higher than opinion of any other user. Things I say have no administrative power.

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All I have to say about this pushing down people's throat BS is...

This is how a normal page of this thread looks like.

You have got to be kidding me.

Please count the girl's stans spazzing posts and other ships posts and then see Yoonsic's. I think some just hate Yoonsic so one single post feels like 20 or 100 or something like that.
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May 23 2013, 03:22 AM
I guess we should better take it here:

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May 23 2013, 03:09 AM
Are they pushing it down people's throat though? They keep to their own conversations/quote thread and they don't butt in on other convos that happen around Jessica ships (jeti, yulsic).

That antithesis comment did make me mentally facepalm, I can see how that can be seen as a random dig like "thank god our ship is so amazing, those other ships are pathetic." But I didn't even fully read that comment when it was made in the main thread. Read it fully for the first time in this thread and just recognized it because the word antithesis that managed to catch my attention as I scrolled past it in the main thread.
Posting something over and over is also a form of pushing. Just imagine someone was spamming same picture of same member for weeks. That would be annoying. Things that are done over the top are annoying and it has nothing to do with shipping even.

I'm not saying that yoonsic shippers should be forbidden to do that. Not at all. But if they expect certain tolerance from people in the thread, they should have some tolerance for what people are saying as well. Right now they are a bit like that annoying kid who does everything to piss everyone off and then runs and calls adults whenever someone calls him a name. I believe that adults should be taking responsibility for things they do.

Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for moderation here, so I'm saying all this a personal opinion. You don't have to hold it any higher than opinion of any other user. Things I say have no administrative power.
That's not what the YoonSic shippers are doing though. If they were this argument would be clean and dry and we would be telling them to stop polluting the thread.

They're spazzing about legitimately new pictures and moments, it's just all their spazz is the same. But like another anon pointed out, it's not like the unf Yuri or omg I love Taeyeon so much or Fany is so attractive spazz is any different. It's just that they're more consistent and continuous. Maybe even that they number in the minority (the ratio of their spazz to the posters is higher).

Your "annoying kid" analogy could be valid, but it's presumptuous. What if they are just legitmately spazzing, happy that their ship is having moments (a lot of them), and they want to express themselves here? As in, with no malice at all in their intent. Who's to say whether or not this is the case?

I think the problem is the distinction on how much is, and of what, too much. When are you making decisions based on what's fair and when are you making decisions based on personal preference? I can tell the mods have been struggling with this question ever since the YoonSic spam became so relevant, but I've yet to come up with any solution.
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Jesus christ I'm just gonna give up, they just don't get the concept of 'meeting eachother half way' and now comparing Yoonsic shipper spazz to our regular spazz about SNSD events and our girls, shouldn't spazzing about our girls be the main priority over shipping :-/
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May 23 2013, 03:41 AM
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I guess we should better take it here:

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Are they pushing it down people's throat though? They keep to their own conversations/quote thread and they don't butt in on other convos that happen around Jessica ships (jeti, yulsic).

That antithesis comment did make me mentally facepalm, I can see how that can be seen as a random dig like "thank god our ship is so amazing, those other ships are pathetic." But I didn't even fully read that comment when it was made in the main thread. Read it fully for the first time in this thread and just recognized it because the word antithesis that managed to catch my attention as I scrolled past it in the main thread.
Posting something over and over is also a form of pushing. Just imagine someone was spamming same picture of same member for weeks. That would be annoying. Things that are done over the top are annoying and it has nothing to do with shipping even.

I'm not saying that yoonsic shippers should be forbidden to do that. Not at all. But if they expect certain tolerance from people in the thread, they should have some tolerance for what people are saying as well. Right now they are a bit like that annoying kid who does everything to piss everyone off and then runs and calls adults whenever someone calls him a name. I believe that adults should be taking responsibility for things they do.

Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for moderation here, so I'm saying all this a personal opinion. You don't have to hold it any higher than opinion of any other user. Things I say have no administrative power.
That's not what the YoonSic shippers are doing though. If they were this argument would be clean and dry and we would be telling them to stop polluting the thread.

They're spazzing about legitimately new pictures and moments, it's just all their spazz is the same. But like another anon pointed out, it's not like the unf Yuri or omg I love Taeyeon so much or Fany is so attractive spazz is any different. It's just that they're more consistent and continuous. Maybe even that they number in the minority (the ratio of their spazz to the posters is higher).

Your "annoying kid" analogy could be valid, but it's presumptuous. What if they are just legitmately spazzing, happy that their ship is having moments (a lot of them), and they want to express themselves here? As in, with no malice at all in their intent. Who's to say whether or not this is the case?

I think the problem is the distinction on how much is, and of what, too much. When are you making decisions based on what's fair and when are you making decisions based on personal preference? I can tell the mods have been struggling with this question ever since the YoonSic spam became so relevant, but I've yet to come up with any solution.
Well thought out and factual, you speak well and true. :gaypimp:
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lol um...since the complaints thread is closed I'll put this here:

can someone edit the URL in this post: http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8394971&t=8561834
it's stretching the page and making the thread a pain the ass to read (I have to scroll left to right on my monitor read text posts)
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May 23 2013, 03:51 AM
Jesus christ I'm just gonna give up, they just don't get the concept of 'meeting eachother half way' and now comparing Yoonsic shipper spazz to our regular spazz about SNSD events and our girls, shouldn't spazzing about our girls be the main priority over shipping :-/
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yoonsic shippers should make a thread just for them.
and I'm not talking about a thread here.
but far away from here.
yeah, I do not like yoonsic shippers.
And yes again, I'm being a fucking bitch, but I'm being sincere.

I like yoona and jessica, I just do not like their shippers wanting to shove down the throats,they as a couple.
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That's not what the YoonSic shippers are doing though. If they were this argument would be clean and dry and we would be telling them to stop polluting the thread.

They're spazzing about legitimately new pictures and moments, it's just all their spazz is the same. But like another anon pointed out, it's not like the unf Yuri or omg I love Taeyeon so much or Fany is so attractive spazz is any different. It's just that they're more consistent and continuous. Maybe even that they number in the minority (the ratio of their spazz to the posters is higher).

Your "annoying kid" analogy could be valid, but it's presumptuous. What if they are just legitmately spazzing, happy that their ship is having moments (a lot of them), and they want to express themselves here? As in, with no malice at all in their intent. Who's to say whether or not this is the case?

I think the problem is the distinction on how much is, and of what, too much. When are you making decisions based on what's fair and when are you making decisions based on personal preference? I can tell the mods have been struggling with this question ever since the YoonSic spam became so relevant, but I've yet to come up with any solution.
I don't have enough time to follow the thread religiously these days but even with amount of reading I do the problem with yoonsic shippers is rather obvious. It's not something that happened in last couple of weeks either. It has been happening for months.

I don't have particular problem with that myself but I can see why people would be annoyed. And I think it's important that yoonsic shippers realize that that's the effect they are causing. Then they can either adjust their behavior and try to blend with the community in a more natural way or they can choose to ignore everyone's feelings and do as they please 'because written rules allow it'. But then they should expect and tolerate lack of respect in their own direction as well. It should be symmetrical. Right now they aggressively defend their right to do whatever yet at the same time constantly complain on even slightest of suspicions of someone giving them a weird look.

I don't say there is malice in their intent btw. But this is how society works. If you go on and on an on about that one thing you are crazy about, people will not be very fond of you. You can broaden your horizons of grow a thicker skin but you can't expect mom, teacher or police officer to fix that kind of problem for you.

To be honest I don't think mods should be interfering that much into this kind of problems at all. That's a lot of responsibility to take. And it's very far from deleting gore and peen troll pics mods were originally supposed to be here for.
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I don't have particular problem with that myself but I can see why people would be annoyed. And I think it's important that yoonsic shippers realize that that's the effect they are causing. Then they can either adjust their behavior and try to blend with the community in a more natural way or they can choose to ignore everyone's feelings and do as they please 'because written rules allow it'. But then they should expect and tolerate lack of respect in their own direction as well. It should be symmetrical. Right now they aggressively defend their right to do whatever yet at the same time constantly complain on even slightest of suspicions of someone giving them a weird look.
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All I have to say about this pushing down people's throat BS is...

This is how a normal page of this thread looks like.

You have got to be kidding me.

Please count the girl's stans spazzing posts and other ships posts and then see Yoonsic's. I think some just hate Yoonsic so one single post feels like 20 or 100 or something like that.
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lol um...since the complaints thread is closed I'll put this here:

can someone edit the URL in this post: http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8394971&t=8561834
it's stretching the page and making the thread a pain the ass to read (I have to scroll left to right on my monitor read text posts)
thanks for fixing this...i think?
:unsure: you guys can edit posts without it showing us you edited the post now?
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lol um...since the complaints thread is closed I'll put this here:

can someone edit the URL in this post: http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8394971&t=8561834
it's stretching the page and making the thread a pain the ass to read (I have to scroll left to right on my monitor read text posts)
thanks for fixing this...i think?
:unsure: you guys can edit posts without it showing us you edited the post now?
Oh shit, my bad. I forgot to enable the "Show that you edited this post" option. Sorry.
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I don't have particular problem with that myself but I can see why people would be annoyed. And I think it's important that yoonsic shippers realize that that's the effect they are causing. Then they can either adjust their behavior and try to blend with the community in a more natural way or they can choose to ignore everyone's feelings and do as they please 'because written rules allow it'. But then they should expect and tolerate lack of respect in their own direction as well. It should be symmetrical. Right now they aggressively defend their right to do whatever yet at the same time constantly complain on even slightest of suspicions of someone giving them a weird look.
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All I have to say about this pushing down people's throat BS is...

This is how a normal page of this thread looks like.

You have got to be kidding me.

Please count the girl's stans spazzing posts and other ships posts and then see Yoonsic's. I think some just hate Yoonsic so one single post feels like 20 or 100 or something like that.
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just gotta add...do you really think that's true, not just on this page but in general? i'm curious.
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lol um...since the complaints thread is closed I'll put this here:

can someone edit the URL in this post: http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8394971&t=8561834
it's stretching the page and making the thread a pain the ass to read (I have to scroll left to right on my monitor read text posts)
thanks for fixing this...i think?
:unsure: you guys can edit posts without it showing us you edited the post now?
Oh shit, my bad. I forgot to enable the "Show that you edited this post" option. Sorry.
:hmmm: well that's frightening.
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lol um...since the complaints thread is closed I'll put this here:

can someone edit the URL in this post: http://w11.zetaboards.com/sogayshidae/single/?p=8394971&t=8561834
it's stretching the page and making the thread a pain the ass to read (I have to scroll left to right on my monitor read text posts)
thanks for fixing this...i think?
:unsure: you guys can edit posts without it showing us you edited the post now?
Oh shit, my bad. I forgot to enable the "Show that you edited this post" option. Sorry.
:hmmm: well that's frightening.
It was a mistake anon, I apologize.
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yoonsic shippers should make a thread just for them.
and I'm not talking about a thread here.
but far away from here.
yeah, I do not like yoonsic shippers.
And yes again, I'm being a fucking bitch, but I'm being sincere.

I like yoona and jessica, I just do not like their shippers wanting to shove down the throats,they as a couple.
lol preach
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This is how a normal page of this thread looks like.
You have got to be kidding me.
Please count the girl's stans spazzing posts and other ships posts and then see Yoonsic's. I think some just hate Yoonsic so one single post feels like 20 or 100 or something like that.
This is not a 'normal' page, this is a page you picked. But it doesn't matter much anyway since I won't be playing math games here. We wouldn't be all discussing this issue here if it wasn't an issue at all. Regardless of exact amount of pictures on any given page, a lot of people are obviously annoyed. And it's something you need to deal with. You can't just tell them not to be annoyed and expect that to happen. Either do something to adjust or accept people being less than happy with you.

I don't hate YoonSic or any shipping pair. I'll gladly watch some fmv or go aww over some particularly sweet moment. But claiming every single picture to be the illustration of eternal love and presenting relationships as it was a fact will always irk a lot of people, me included. When it's all you do on every single page - people are annoyed. It's pretty simple.
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Jesus christ I'm just gonna give up, they just don't get the concept of 'meeting eachother half way' and now comparing Yoonsic shipper spazz to our regular spazz about SNSD events and our girls, shouldn't spazzing about our girls be the main priority over shipping :-/
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it's ridiculous how they try to make it seem as if they're being picked on
of course there's gonna be gifs about the girls and other ships now that the girls finally showed up together again for promotion
yoonsic shippers are going non-stop for hundreds of pages now with repetition of gifs and lames ass comments IN EVERY PAGE
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sorry ihla, i got carried away on the ff thread ytd :$

but yeah my point is, shipping is tly fine but things like 'see that? see those smiles? we cant deny that yoonsic are so into each other' are not okay, i don't see other shippers doing that ^o)
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I don't have particular problem with that myself but I can see why people would be annoyed. And I think it's important that yoonsic shippers realize that that's the effect they are causing. Then they can either adjust their behavior and try to blend with the community in a more natural way or they can choose to ignore everyone's feelings and do as they please 'because written rules allow it'. But then they should expect and tolerate lack of respect in their own direction as well. It should be symmetrical. Right now they aggressively defend their right to do whatever yet at the same time constantly complain on even slightest of suspicions of someone giving them a weird look.
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All I have to say about this pushing down people's throat BS is...

This is how a normal page of this thread looks like.

You have got to be kidding me.

Please count the girl's stans spazzing posts and other ships posts and then see Yoonsic's. I think some just hate Yoonsic so one single post feels like 20 or 100 or something like that.
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just gotta add...do you really think that's true, not just on this page but in general? i'm curious.
Who blends? No one.
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I don't have particular problem with that myself but I can see why people would be annoyed. And I think it's important that yoonsic shippers realize that that's the effect they are causing. Then they can either adjust their behavior and try to blend with the community in a more natural way or they can choose to ignore everyone's feelings and do as they please 'because written rules allow it'. But then they should expect and tolerate lack of respect in their own direction as well. It should be symmetrical. Right now they aggressively defend their right to do whatever yet at the same time constantly complain on even slightest of suspicions of someone giving them a weird look.
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All I have to say about this pushing down people's throat BS is...

This is how a normal page of this thread looks like.

You have got to be kidding me.

Please count the girl's stans spazzing posts and other ships posts and then see Yoonsic's. I think some just hate Yoonsic so one single post feels like 20 or 100 or something like that.
da
just gotta add...do you really think that's true, not just on this page but in general? i'm curious.
Who blends? No one.
da are you comparing yoonsic spam to sootae spam? :rofl:
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