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Topic Started: May 11 2013, 08:53 PM (57,079 Views)
orangedaffodils
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Aug 2 2013, 11:52 PM
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Aug 2 2013, 11:52 PM
This is stupid.
You're the ones that made the poll in the first place. Glad to hear you think the idea is stupid after all.
That's obviously not what she was referring to and you know it.
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Aug 2 2013, 11:56 PM
Making that poll was not a stupid idea. Telling you to do one is stupid.

If I wanted to make a poll, and take it as valid without making sure the votes are real, I'll make it myself.
I think so too. That's within the realm of Mods, but I guess you don't want to do that, since it takes so much effort and all of your morning, which consists of 1m, apparently. And then you blow up at and shoot exclamation marks at anyone who questions it, which is also responsible Mod behaviour.
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Aug 2 2013, 11:57 PM
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Aug 2 2013, 11:56 PM
Making that poll was not a stupid idea. Telling you to do one is stupid.

If I wanted to make a poll, and take it as valid without making sure the votes are real, I'll make it myself.
I think so too. That's within the realm of Mods, but I guess you don't want to do that, since it takes so much effort and all of your morning, which consists of 1m, apparently. And then you blow up at and shoot exclamation marks at anyone who questions it, which is also responsible Mod behaviour.
Of course, checking 170+ IP's, deleting fake votes, making a list... That takes one minute. It takes hours.

Making a poll, waiting and taking a creencap. That, of course, takes 1 minute.

You question everything. You made a circus out of the theme thing saying how much you hated and how you will never use it, just to tell us a few weeks later there were problems with it. You were using it after all.
You made a few valid points during that discussion, the rest was just plane whining.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:01 AM
You question everything. You made a circus out of the theme thing saying how much you hated and how you will never use it, just to tell us a few weeks later there were problems with it. You were using it after all.
You made a few valid points during that discussion, the rest was just plane whining.
Wow, that is 100% pure fucking BULLSHIT. As soon as I could, I switched to the old theme and I've never commented or used the new one since. Where did you even GET that from? Now you have to resort to straight out lying to make yourself look like the victim in this situation? Stop with your persecution complex. You only need to go back and pagecatch this very thread to know that isn't fucking true, so it's not even like your lie makes any damn sense. You're acting like a bumbling incompetent. :eyeroll:
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Aug 3 2013, 12:05 AM
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Aug 3 2013, 12:01 AM
You question everything. You made a circus out of the theme thing saying how much you hated and how you will never use it, just to tell us a few weeks later there were problems with it. You were using it after all.
You made a few valid points during that discussion, the rest was just plane whining.
Wow, that is 100% pure fucking BULLSHIT. As soon as I could, I switched to the old theme and I've never commented or used the new one since. Where did you even GET that from? Now you have to resort to straight out lying to make yourself look like the victim in this situation? Stop with your persecution complex. You only need to go back and pagecatch this very thread to know that isn't fucking true, so it's not even like your lie makes any damn sense. You're acting like a bumbling incompetent. :eyeroll:

Xyz implemented something, I can't recall what it was (maybe someone else can), and it was only for the new theme. You told us it was not working good and that would only be possible if you were using the new theme.

If there is another explanation, please tell me and I'll apologise.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:08 AM
Xyz implemented something, I can't recall what it was (maybe someone else can), and it was only for the new theme. You told us it was not working good and that would only be possible if you were using the new theme.

If there's is another explanation, please tell me and I'll apologise.
Nope, I never commented on that. I've only ever used the Old Theme, so unless it was a board-wide issue, it's impossible for me to know about it. I don't even know what you're talking about, actually. I commented on the loading times of the board, and it was concluded it was a ZB server slowdown, or something like that. *Maybe you're referring to that.

Also, I'm sorry for the way I talked to you in that last post. I don't think the situation warranted it.
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oh-kay, didn't really wanna get involved in this whatever it is, but it is true that the people who have been most vocal were the ones who are against the page change, so, as someone with a poopy internet connection, personally it would be cool if we changed it, BUT seriously if this issue is causing so much pain all around it might be an option to just drop it and see if enough people are eager enough to change it that it comes up again on its own...
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@Arti There you go

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Uh, nope. I was using the Old Theme at all times.

I think that was a monitor problem, since I got a bigger monitor that could support 1440x900 where I had previously been using 1200x800.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:16 AM
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Aug 3 2013, 12:15 AM
Uh, nope. I was using the Old Theme at all times.

I think that was a monitor problem, since I got a bigger monitor that could support 1440x900 where I had previously been using 1200x800.
Huh, ok then. I take back what I said.
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I can take a screenshot now, if you want me to show you. Previously the banner fit the screen and now it doesn't. If there were no changes, it must be my monitor resolution.

Actually, nope, that monitor broke. This one is a 21" wide-screen, so the banner is even smaller.
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^No need to.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:10 AM
oh-kay, didn't really wanna get involved in this whatever it is, but it is true that the people who have been most vocal were the ones who are against the page change, so, as someone with a poopy internet connection, personally it would be cool if we changed it, BUT seriously if this issue is causing so much pain all around it might be an option to just drop it and see if enough people are eager enough to change it that it comes up again on its own...
Thanks for taking the time to write this in the middle of this... well, situation lol
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Aug 3 2013, 12:19 AM
^No need to.
It's not like I didn't face the fact that I acted irresponsibly, either, so idk why you mentioned that at all. I made a full apology (rightly so) for what I know was unacceptable behaviour, and acknowledged valid criticism of it. There was no point in bringing that up other than as some kind of attempt to ad hominem what I'm saying.

And if you don't want to run polls because the effort of it is too much or you feel that The One Anon doesn't appreciate your time, then I'll do it. Like I said, I don't need a Mod badge to do that much. I'll run it again if you don't want to and ensure it's done properly.
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^I know you apologized. You still find every new modification we'd like to try as bad thing. You don't like change.
And you are always questioning us like we were up to no good, or that's my impression. We already have someone who likes to do that so you going that way too can be really annoying.
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Aug 2 2013, 11:39 PM
^ Why are you checking the IPs, then, unless you expected it to be rigged? It's just a poll over something you Mods ~don't care about~, after all.

And you complain every time someone arrives on the complaints thread, pretty much. It's also funny how every Anon that seems to complain is THAT ONE ANON who obviously has a huge personal grudge and never ever has a valid point ever because she's just acting out of vengeance. I doubt it's all her tbh but I'm not going to get into that because I'm not sure, it's just highly suspicious.
You are fighting to win very small battles here and missing the big picture entirely.

Yes, it's pretty much always the same anon that goes against mods calling them out for anti-democracy. Yes it's pretty much always the same anon demanding mods to censor things and make separate threads for everything. Yes, it's the same anon who created this whole YoonSic drama by using proxies and talking with herself and keeps doing it while talking how very annoying everyone else is. Yes, it was the same anon acting like she's an outside observer and defending YoonSic shippers against blood-thirsty mods. Yes it's quite likely that this anon was involved in some picture spamming, including the ugly thing with kiddo's pictures. This anon always has a point to prove and she has her recognizable ways of doing that. And yes, she's never above lies and hypocrisy. It's a game she plays. And it's quite likely that you know her name.

That's why knowing that this anon is against the idea I personally expected this poll to be rigged and would ask Frost to check it if she didn't do it herself. And it has very few to do with that 20 || 35 pages thing. It's a matter of whether we can trust any poll allowing proxies to decide anything ever.
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Question. Is it possible that you can change one theme to 20 pages and keep another for 35 pages, or is that gonna cause too much trouble? Just trying to find a logical conclusion to all this.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:37 AM
Question. Is it possible that you can change one theme to 20 pages and keep another for 35 pages, or is that gonna cause too much trouble? Just trying to find a logical conclusion to all this.
It's a board-wide setting. Themes have nothing to do with it.

It's not important anyway. You may not believe me, but I always had a list of pros and cons for this one and while my final thought was positive, I was always ready to accept the other version. It's the cheating that I'm not ready to accept.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:43 AM
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Question. Is it possible that you can change one theme to 20 pages and keep another for 35 pages, or is that gonna cause too much trouble? Just trying to find a logical conclusion to all this.
It's a board-wide setting. Themes have nothing to do with it.

It's not important anyway. You may not believe me, but I always had a list of pros and cons for this one and while my final thought was positive, I was always ready to accept the other version. It's the cheating that I'm not ready to accept.
Alright. I understand. ^_^
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Aug 3 2013, 12:32 AM
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Aug 2 2013, 11:39 PM
^ Why are you checking the IPs, then, unless you expected it to be rigged? It's just a poll over something you Mods ~don't care about~, after all.

And you complain every time someone arrives on the complaints thread, pretty much. It's also funny how every Anon that seems to complain is THAT ONE ANON who obviously has a huge personal grudge and never ever has a valid point ever because she's just acting out of vengeance. I doubt it's all her tbh but I'm not going to get into that because I'm not sure, it's just highly suspicious.
You are fighting to win very small battles here and missing the big picture entirely.

Yes, it's pretty much always the same anon that goes against mods calling them out for anti-democracy. Yes it's pretty much always the same anon demanding mods to censor things and make separate threads for everything. Yes, it's the same anon who created this whole YoonSic drama by using proxies and talking with herself and keeps doing it while talking how very annoying everyone else is. Yes, it was the same anon acting like she's an outside observer and defending YoonSic shippers against blood-thirsty mods. Yes it's quite likely that this anon was involved in some picture spamming, including the ugly thing with kiddo's pictures. This anon always has a point to prove and she has her recognizable ways of doing that. And yes, she's never above lies and hypocrisy. It's a game she plays. And it's quite likely that you know her name.

That's why knowing that this anon is against the idea I personally expected this poll to be rigged and would ask Frost to check it if she didn't do it herself. And it has very few to do with that 20 || 35 pages thing. It's a matter of whether we can trust any poll allowing proxies to decide anything ever.
Oh no you did not!
Ok.
Ok.
I need to fucking breathe right now.
I have resisted saying something because it somehow ends up with even more shit heaped upon me but no, you have gone too far. Too far even fucking suggesting I would EVER troll this site with images let alone ILLEGAL PEDOPHILIC DISGUSTING PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES. Are you fucking kidding me? I reported that shit. I said in this very thread it was fucking stupid to post selcas in this place and that minors should never, ever post their selcas which is why ihla spends half the time posting the warning in the OT thread every time people forget. And you fucking dare accuse me? Besides the fact you got no fucking proof except I assume the troll used a proxy? I mean this shit is really low. OK? Really fucking low. I have never shied away from admitting I use my proxy, the only proxy I use and use for everything not just site. But to put everything on me, everything done by proxy? The fuck I will keep silent. When I say something I OWN it, always have always will. So no to all the BS you just wrote there.
The fuck do you get off lying like this? When things go bad you just resort to this? I only use ONE proxy, been using that for months and even mods accepted that was so long ago so I don't know where this biggest proxy abuser shit comes from (that you said before). Same with trying to implicate me in this so called cheating without a single shred of evidence that there even was cheating and who did it, pointing fingers is easy enough.
I can't even right now.
This is just.
This is fucking vile man, you fuckers have no heart.
To accuse of doing something to kiddo and that other minor that is just shameful.
I just can't.
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^ Well... It was just a possibility. Not that she really thought you did it, that would be... nasty and low.
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You have lied before. You said hypocritical things before. You did a lot of things that did not exactly present you as a person with good values.

I do have to make a point that unlike everything else in the list the picture thing is really no more than possibility. It just felt very you and you were there at the same time, so I had to consider such a possibility. If it was not, I sincerely apologize for mentioning it. You did give me plenty of reasons to think so though. And we gave you so many chances to stop, it almost became a habit. You just kept doing your thing.

I'm not buying the 1 IP story, sorry. You've been using mostly one lately but you used plenty of them before.
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Aug 3 2013, 12:55 AM
^ Well... It was just a possibility. Not that she really thought you did it, that would be... nasty and low.
A possibility? A possibility??! NO IT IS NOT A FUCKING POSSIBILITY.
You don't get it! You don't fucking get it! I would NEVER do something like that to ANYONE let alone the maknae.
I just can barely type right now you have no idea.
OK.
I need to breathe and take 5.

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Yes it's quite likely that this anon was involved in some picture spamming, including the ugly thing with kiddo's pictures.

Why would she say this then? Why?!
This is heart wrenching, you don't even know! To be accused of something so vile, immoral and well never mind morality ILLEGAL. I swear it cannot be legal to do what that troll did.
I can still barely accept what I just read in that post.
I just can't.


I am not perfect.
I am not a saint.
I could probably express myself better and less sparingly many times.
I complain when I feel like it's worth complaining the same way I praise when I feel it's worth praising.
But that? No fucking way in hell.

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I have no idea how doing what that troll did with picture of two MINORS felt very me but frankly I don't want to hear more because it is disgusting.

Believe what you want, this is the only IP I use.
The only time I have used another is when this IP stopped processing and that lasted less than a day.
Once my IP started working again I've used it seamlessly.


And I am done thinking about this because it's too much.
I don't even.
I need a drink.
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I was going to say something... But it's better if xyz deals with this.

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Yes it's quite likely that this anon was involved in some picture spamming, including the ugly thing with kiddo's pictures.

Why would she say this then? Why?!
This is heart wrenching, you don't even know! To be accused of something so vile, immoral and well never mind morality ILLEGAL. I swear it cannot be legal to do what that troll did.
I can still barely accept what I just read in that post.
I just can't.
This may be personal to you and I sympathize and repeat my sorry in case you had nothing to do with it.

But I will not pretend that I can sincerely buy everything you say. I have a lot of faith in people to the point some may say I'm naive. Even when one does wrong, I still try my best to see things they did right. You surprised me time after time. Every time I thought 'she wouldn't' you went ahead and you did.

Your points have this magical ability of being proven by proxy users. People complain YoonSic are same people? You try really hard to bring it to everyone's attention that 'mods said they are many' while acting like an outsider that doesn't even like YoonSic shippers that much. You were protecting them against evil mods while Main thread was spammed by proxy users, quoting same pics, using same smilies and posting same insincere mechanical spazzing one-liners that were way below the level of your intelligence. Yet your IP was among them.

You were constantly calling out mods for being anti-democratic while at the same time constantly trying to provoke them to act anti-democratic. You played your games. You went as far as saying mods were 'going Rei'. You? Seriously? You were the only person stirring shit in Forum Discussions so many times (I don't count Arti) and then you would go and say how many problems something mods did caused. You like to prove your own points, don't you?

That's why when you tell me that we should expect trolls from lchat, I do have to think you could want to prove this right. This is when you post that furious note about how people shouldn't post selcas and then right away a proxy user proves that point by making worst happen, I do have to wonder.

I trully want you to be better than I think you are. I really want to be the wrong one saying sorry. I want my faith in people in tact. But I can't believe you. Not when you are the way you are, sorry.
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lol wow reading this thread is making even me frustrated.
i feel ya mods.
anyway, i don't mind if the limit of posts per page is changed. it would probably load a lot faster on my phone too.
if it is changed, that would mean we'd be reaching page 2000 sooner, or is the limit according to total posts per thread?
not that it matters much, a new thread can be made.
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lol wow reading this thread is making even me frustrated.
i feel ya mods.
anyway, i don't mind if the limit of posts per page is changed. it would probably load a lot faster on my phone too.
if it is changed, that would mean we'd be reaching page 2000 sooner, or is the limit according to total posts per thread?
not that it matters much, a new thread can be made.
da I haven't thought about that, it may help to reach the 2000th page sooner, but it also depends on how fast the thread moves
in a busy day (unexpected news, mv, or something interesting) maybe we'll have more pages to pagecatch but it's the same idk how to explain it :rofl: you'll have to click on the number of the pages more often and that's it.

solidarity with the bitches with bad internet connection :hug:
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Aug 3 2013, 03:34 AM
solidarity with the bitches with bad internet connection :hug:
this made me cackle a lot, idk why :lol:

Thank y'all for your input. I know this thread has been very busy today, but i'm glad it hasn't dissuaded everyone from offering their thoughts on the matter.
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solidarity with the bitches with bad internet connection [2]  :grouphug: :rofl:

I voted "I agree" but tbh I don't mind if it's either 20 or 35 posts per page. Idk, it just won't change anything to me, I think. And man, I feel bad for the mods/admins sometimes... dealing with unreasonable people and psychotic trolls must be fcking tiresome.
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When should this poll be closed?
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Since Kitteh left the poll open for around 24hrs, let's just go with that again.
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Aug 3 2013, 05:58 AM
Since Kitteh left the poll open for around 24hrs, let's just go with that again.
Alright.

I'll close it on 20:50pm, +00:00 GMT.
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Aug 3 2013, 05:58 AM
Since Kitteh left the poll open for around 24hrs, let's just go with that again.
Look I don't want to start something but mods should be in charge of the polls

Also, it could be a good idea to post a short summary about those weird proxy votes on the main along with a link to this thread, because lazy bitches are lazy
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i just want to show my appreciation to all the mods for the hard work in managing the forum. :hug:

you just can't please everybody
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Also, it could be a good idea to post a short summary about those weird proxy votes on the main along with a link to this thread, because lazy bitches are lazy
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No need to. The voting in this poll has been clean so far, so it seems that Anon just struck in that one specific poll.
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