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Aug 21 2013, 10:22 PM
about the term "lesbian" in the banner, wouldn't it make bisexuals feel kind of...unwelcome?
I thought about that too.

I think queer would be the best option, as far as making it the most inclusive, but then again, the message may not sink it to people who like to ignore that factor; "lesbian" is kind of in your face and let's people know that this is an LGBTQ space.

Perhaps a good idea would be to include it in the FAQ/description rather than in the banner.
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about the term "lesbian" in the banner, wouldn't it make bisexuals feel kind of...unwelcome?
i was one of the anons who asked for them to put lesbian.it's not that they are not welcomed here i just thought that the only way for people to understand what this place is about is to put that because clearly gay wasn't enough.
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New thought:

ORRR instead of "lesbian" in the banner we could just put, "women who like/love women" or something like that. That way, it gets the point across w/o making other LGBTQ identified women feel unwelcome ^_^
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i propose a few, but not too many, different subtopics to be opened because the OT Chat isn't really an ideal place to host so many different topics especially when it's the same group of people that mostly hang out there. there doesn't have to be a lot of different threads but just a few choice ones that we can all vote on. and mods can set rules that only a mod can open a thread after they see it necessary.

one of the threads suggested that sounds like a great ideal:
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Aug 22 2013, 09:23 AM
A thread where could be talked about sexuality and LGBTQ related things that happen around the world could be cool and helpful for anyone that is struggling with their sexuality.

edit: And that might also make clear what kind of people we really wanna have here.


i also think another good thread would be OT fandom talks that aren't directly related to the girls to cover all the OT stuff that people didn't want in the main thread.
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I really liked Windmill's idea as well, and i'd like to know the other mods opinions on it.

however, the sort of snsd-adjacent thread that you're proposing has already been discussed; it seems most of what would go in that thread would be fancammer/twatter/famous SONE/family/other people talk and can get a little invasive and other people have noted that it could send the wrong messages about digging/privacy (can't recall the pages it was discussed on atm).
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Aug 22 2013, 10:45 AM
I really liked Windmill's idea as well, and i'd like to know the other mods opinions on it.

however, the sort of snsd-adjacent thread that you're proposing has already been discussed; it seems most of what would go in that thread would be fancammer/twatter/famous SONE/family/other people talk and can get a little invasive and other people have noted that it could send the wrong messages about digging/privacy (can't recall the pages it was discussed on atm).
if it's a matter of privacy you can make it a rule that talk of sns accounts of people related to or close to snsd is not allowed unless it was made public for all to see. lately there's been a lot of topics in the main thread that people have been complaining it doesn't belong here, but it's still legitimate discussions that belongs somewhere and my beef is that ot chat is a terrible place to do that.
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I hated the idea of opening a thread for ot that is kind of related to snsd at first because let's face it when you give creepers a thread it won't end well, but the other fancammers bns talk is inevitable and anons seem to hate it when people stat talking about it in the main thread and sometimes i participate in the conversation tbh just because i can't stop myself lol.
The idea was just discussed here we didn't get to vote and like that anon said you can set rules to stop anons from creeping and stalking other people so not to cause this place to be closed for privacy issues.
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I'm not entirely against a thread for fancammer/twatter/famous SONE/other stuff to tell the truth, it would really help reduce the number of wanks on the main thread as well as reducing the confusion on the chat thread, but I don't agree with inlcuding family matters and private accounts as it is really none of our business.

However, if we were to create these threads, we have to be clear from the very beginning that we will not create any shipping threads or any other fandom threads. The latter can be discussed in the Chat and Kpop threads.

As for Windy's idea, I like it as well, for the same reasons she gave.
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Aug 22 2013, 11:38 AM
I'm not entirely against a thread for fancammer/twatter/famous SONE/other stuff to tell the truth, it would really help reduce the number of wanks on the main thread as well as reducing the confusion on the chat thread, but I don't agree with inlcuding family matters and private accounts as it is really none of our business.

However, if we were to create these threads, we have to be clear from the very beginning that we will not create any shipping threads or any other fandom threads. The latter can be discussed in the Chat and Kpop threads.

As for Windy's idea, I like it as well, for the same reasons she gave.
I agree ^_^
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if we start making threads, people will ask to create a thread for everything, I think the chat thread is ok, cause you can discuss about everything, if someone is struggling about any reason the chat thread can cover that.

and I really don't want this forum to open a thread about twitter aw, really, sometimes I feel like we're really surrounded by twitter aw who push those combos, idk why people even call them high profile and all :rofl: wtf is that, they just dedicate more time to tweet and that's it, it's not enough reason to open a thread, if we create that we're encouraging the aw behaviour
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^ you can simply not read it if you don't like it

mods can start with rules that certain threads like ships and other fandoms aren't allowed. also mods can be the only ones to open a new thread. if someone wants a new thread they can say what they want in here and if the mod agrees that it's necessary then they can open one.
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^ you can simply not read it if you don't like it

mods can start with rules that certain threads like ships and other fandoms aren't allowed. also mods can be the only ones to open a new thread. if someone wants a new thread they can say what they want in here and if the mod agrees that it's necessary then they can open one.
if we create an aw thread, then we'll attract even more aw to this forum
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^ you can simply not read it if you don't like it

mods can start with rules that certain threads like ships and other fandoms aren't allowed. also mods can be the only ones to open a new thread. if someone wants a new thread they can say what they want in here and if the mod agrees that it's necessary then they can open one.
if we create an aw thread, then we'll attract even more aw to this forum
da I agree. Just watch all the twitter aw come over here to "defend" themselves. I'm pretty sure some already do it, but with a thread dedicated to them is just giving them more power.

A thread for LGBTQ things is a great idea.
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^ you can simply not read it if you don't like it

mods can start with rules that certain threads like ships and other fandoms aren't allowed. also mods can be the only ones to open a new thread. if someone wants a new thread they can say what they want in here and if the mod agrees that it's necessary then they can open one.
if we create an aw thread, then we'll attract even more aw to this forum
da I agree. Just watch all the twitter aw come over here to "defend" themselves. I'm pretty sure some already do it, but with a thread dedicated to them is just giving them more power.

A thread for LGBTQ things is a great idea.
X2 I don't like the thought of feeding AW's with even more attention like they deserve it. I understand our need to know things but the soshifeed is enough for the things that matter. (Really thankful for that thread btw, I was away for a week and the feed provided the quick catch up I needed)
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^ you can simply not read it if you don't like it

mods can start with rules that certain threads like ships and other fandoms aren't allowed. also mods can be the only ones to open a new thread. if someone wants a new thread they can say what they want in here and if the mod agrees that it's necessary then they can open one.
if we create an aw thread, then we'll attract even more aw to this forum
da I am sure they already found this place ages ago, for me the new thread is not for aw it's for everything related to the girls but not directly about them. I am sure mods will let people vote before creating the thread so anons who hate the idea can simply say no.
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I think allowing users to open threads about things that interest them is a good idea to spice up the forum a bit. There'll be more to talk about and it could make it even more fun to visit here.

Of course there gotta be made rules in advance about what kind of topics not to start so that mods can deleted them when necessary.

The LGBTQ thread is a good idea because it will show new users that visit that we cater to the gay community. It's also good for posters that struggle with their sexuality and news from all over the world about LGBT things is always nice to stay updated and be aware of what's going on around the world.
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Aug 22 2013, 11:38 AM
I'm not entirely against a thread for fancammer/twatter/famous SONE/other stuff to tell the truth, it would really help reduce the number of wanks on the main thread as well as reducing the confusion on the chat thread, but I don't agree with inlcuding family matters and private accounts as it is really none of our business.

However, if we were to create these threads, we have to be clear from the very beginning that we will not create any shipping threads or any other fandom threads. The latter can be discussed in the Chat and Kpop threads.

As for Windy's idea, I like it as well, for the same reasons she gave.
I agree.


I mentioned to create a thread to funnel all those OT/irrelevant topic months ago because it makes sense. We can send those who want to talk about these things to the chat thread and the subject will die down there BUT then we get it reignited and regurgitated in the main thread later.

LBR what we all really want is to stop the useless, pointless, wank infested chatter that accompanies all these topics. Its one thing to suffer thru :facepalm: comments for on topic subjects but then also for this? Ain't nobody got time for that. So let them have their thread, they can discuss, fight and spazz over all they want.

This doesn't mean we are giving them a space to creep on these people, the thread would have the rules of privacy same as the rest of the forum.

I like Windmill's idea as well, the Chat thread is too much of a catch all thread to serve queer discussions well.
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Aug 22 2013, 07:33 PM
I think allowing users to open threads about things that interest them is a good idea to spice up the forum a bit. There'll be more to talk about and it could make it even more fun to visit here.

Of course there gotta be made rules in advance about what kind of topics not to start so that mods can deleted them when necessary.
I don't think users should be allowed to make threads, not yet at least. For now users should just make requests and then mods/the community can evaluate the proposal. If users are allowed to make threads now, can you imagine the zoo this will become? There isn't the time or manpower er womanpower :P to handle what would be an exponential increase in threads and posts, many things could happen before they are reported/mods see it. This isn't TLC, I don't believe the community here is mature enough for it. By mature I don't mean only in the posters maturity but community as one band of people, I would say right now we got many splinter factions here.
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I think allowing users to open threads about things that interest them is a good idea to spice up the forum a bit. There'll be more to talk about and it could make it even more fun to visit here.

Of course there gotta be made rules in advance about what kind of topics not to start so that mods can deleted them when necessary.
I don't think users should be allowed to make threads, not yet at least. For now users should just make requests and then mods/the community can evaluate the proposal. If users are allowed to make threads now, can you imagine the zoo this will become? There isn't the time or manpower er womanpower :P to handle what would be an exponential increase in threads and posts, many things could happen before they are reported/mods see it. This isn't TLC, I don't believe the community here is mature enough for it. By mature I don't mean only in the posters maturity but community as one band of people, I would say right now we got many splinter factions here.
Not mature enough? I'm pretty sure this community is ''mature'' enough to handle it and if not, rules can always be altered. ^_^

All of this is just an idea at the moment anyway.
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I agree.


I mentioned to create a thread to funnel all those OT/irrelevant topic months ago because it makes sense. We can send those who want to talk about these things to the chat thread and the subject will die down there BUT then we get it reignited and regurgitated in the main thread later.

LBR what we all really want is to stop the useless, pointless, wank infested chatter that accompanies all these topics. Its one thing to suffer thru :facepalm: comments for on topic subjects but then also for this? Ain't nobody got time for that. So let them have their thread, they can discuss, fight and spazz over all they want.

This doesn't mean we are giving them a space to creep on these people, the thread would have the rules of privacy same as the rest of the forum.

I like Windmill's idea as well, the Chat thread is too much of a catch all thread to serve queer discussions well.
But wouldn't it be the same? Instead of saying "take it to the chat thread" we would say "take it to the aw thread", nobody does and the topic dies. This types of conversation will always start on the main thread because it's something related to the girls and then build from that into ot. I don't see the point in creating a thread for this, I think it's going to bring bad attention to us.
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I agree.


I mentioned to create a thread to funnel all those OT/irrelevant topic months ago because it makes sense. We can send those who want to talk about these things to the chat thread and the subject will die down there BUT then we get it reignited and regurgitated in the main thread later.

LBR what we all really want is to stop the useless, pointless, wank infested chatter that accompanies all these topics. Its one thing to suffer thru :facepalm: comments for on topic subjects but then also for this? Ain't nobody got time for that. So let them have their thread, they can discuss, fight and spazz over all they want.

This doesn't mean we are giving them a space to creep on these people, the thread would have the rules of privacy same as the rest of the forum.

I like Windmill's idea as well, the Chat thread is too much of a catch all thread to serve queer discussions well.
But wouldn't it be the same? Instead of saying "take it to the chat thread" we would say "take it to the aw thread", nobody does and the topic dies. This types of conversation will always start on the main thread because it's something related to the girls and then build from that into ot. I don't see the point in creating a thread for this, I think it's going to bring bad attention to us.
They don't take it to the chat thread because the chat thread is full of regs having conversations with each other they don't want to ruin the thread and anons rarely visit that place.But if you have a thread for that kind of thing they will just go there and talk about it.
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They don't take it to the chat thread because the chat thread is full of regs having conversations with each other they don't want to ruin the thread and anons rarely visit that place.But if you have a thread for that kind of thing they will just go there and talk about it.
They don't want to ruin the chat thread (that it's really not that active) but they are ok with ruining the main one? Idk.. an aw thread will either be full of wank or empty because bitches are too lazy to take the convo there.
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I agree.


I mentioned to create a thread to funnel all those OT/irrelevant topic months ago because it makes sense. We can send those who want to talk about these things to the chat thread and the subject will die down there BUT then we get it reignited and regurgitated in the main thread later.

LBR what we all really want is to stop the useless, pointless, wank infested chatter that accompanies all these topics. Its one thing to suffer thru :facepalm: comments for on topic subjects but then also for this? Ain't nobody got time for that. So let them have their thread, they can discuss, fight and spazz over all they want.

This doesn't mean we are giving them a space to creep on these people, the thread would have the rules of privacy same as the rest of the forum.

I like Windmill's idea as well, the Chat thread is too much of a catch all thread to serve queer discussions well.
But wouldn't it be the same? Instead of saying "take it to the chat thread" we would say "take it to the aw thread", nobody does and the topic dies. This types of conversation will always start on the main thread because it's something related to the girls and then build from that into ot. I don't see the point in creating a thread for this, I think it's going to bring bad attention to us.
They don't take it to the chat thread because the chat thread is full of regs having conversations with each other they don't want to ruin the thread and anons rarely visit that place.But if you have a thread for that kind of thing they will just go there and talk about it.
da it's better if they take it to the chat thread cause it will die down, and that's good. If regs are having combos there, well, we can't stop them, can we?, just post freely, I've made some combos with fellow anons though, some regs replied too, so we do exist there!,

and no, we shouldn't let users create threads that freely, I bet we'll have 1000000 threads made for retarded reasons and trolls having a feast.
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But wouldn't it be the same? Instead of saying "take it to the chat thread" we would say "take it to the aw thread", nobody does and the topic dies. This types of conversation will always start on the main thread because it's something related to the girls and then build from that into ot. I don't see the point in creating a thread for this, I think it's going to bring bad attention to us.
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It's fundamentally different to have a thread on its own with a set topic instead of a catch-all thread with no defined topic. A thread with set topic encourages people to post relevant information and encourages readers to come to the thread to check for information that interests them, knowing it will be there.
The main goal being that if there is a thread for it then conversations about that topic won't be started in the main thread, they'll be started and continued by people who are actually interested in that topic in the relevant thread.

-not saying I support the idea of more threads or anything, just saying there is a difference and a value to it-
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I agree.


I mentioned to create a thread to funnel all those OT/irrelevant topic months ago because it makes sense. We can send those who want to talk about these things to the chat thread and the subject will die down there BUT then we get it reignited and regurgitated in the main thread later.

LBR what we all really want is to stop the useless, pointless, wank infested chatter that accompanies all these topics. Its one thing to suffer thru :facepalm: comments for on topic subjects but then also for this? Ain't nobody got time for that. So let them have their thread, they can discuss, fight and spazz over all they want.

This doesn't mean we are giving them a space to creep on these people, the thread would have the rules of privacy same as the rest of the forum.

I like Windmill's idea as well, the Chat thread is too much of a catch all thread to serve queer discussions well.
But wouldn't it be the same? Instead of saying "take it to the chat thread" we would say "take it to the aw thread", nobody does and the topic dies. This types of conversation will always start on the main thread because it's something related to the girls and then build from that into ot. I don't see the point in creating a thread for this, I think it's going to bring bad attention to us.
They don't take it to the chat thread because the chat thread is full of regs having conversations with each other they don't want to ruin the thread and anons rarely visit that place.But if you have a thread for that kind of thing they will just go there and talk about it.
^Next time use DA anon. :nails:

da No, it wouldn't be the same, like I said when I recommended a thread to be opened just for them, it's about funneling irrelevant topics away from the main thread. We can keep sending them to the chat thread but people in the chat thread complain as well and the discussion dies. I don't care if the discussion dies, what I do care is the fact that sending them to the Chat thread only tapers off the talk for a while and then it rears its ugly face again.

If they have their own thread then no one can complain about the subjects being discussed because that is the thread for them. Those that want to talk can do so to their hearts content, free at last. And that will finally free the main thread because they have NO excuse to ever bring such topics there again when they have a dedicated thread just for them.

Will it take some adjustment time? Sure but the sooner we do this, the sooner we get rid of them.
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I think the only thread that needs to be open is the OT Thread. Like an actual thread for all that bns/fancammer shit/aw cousin/ot shit in general. Becaus tbh Chat thread is that: CHAT between regs (and your odd anons here and there) that talk about haircuts/school/work/flirt.
Because their need for talk about this is not going to be satisface until they talk about and in the Chat thread nobody is going to feed them and then they take it again to the Main thread and so the cycle begins.
Making a thread about everything that sparks interest is not really a good idea tbh. Plus mods would have to keep in check all them threads that people want to open. Also family talk shouldnt even be OT it should be banned, creepers recently have take it to a whole new level.
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Of course if we were to open an OT thread, we're going to come up with a new set of rules for it. It's ambiguous ground, so we have to be very clear about what's allowed and what's not.

I don't think allowing users to open new threads is a good idea, it would be chaotic.

It's sad that I spent over 10 minutes trying to find the word ambiguous.
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Letting ppl create their own threads, that would indeed be fun to spice things up a bit like Windmill said.
It is a very ambitious project tho, because of the amount of threads that could be created and that could lead to chaos.
But I honestly like the idea.
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I still don't think it's a good idea. Not only would that be too chaotic and hard to mod, but allowing users here create their own threads will attract a lot more people than we're getting already and not all of them are LGBTQ then this place will slowly start to lose it's purpose. I might sound a bit paranoid with that statement, but it's how I truly feel. I don't want this place to become some sort of Happy Place.02
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This place is mainly about SNSD and we have a thread for that, any new threads are probably going to be OT. This is not TLC, so yep bad idea.
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that's a very closed off mindset. in the past week alone there have been a handful of topics that were discussed in the main thread but cut off because it wasn't about the girls. and yet the discussions were still related to snsd in a way.
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that's a very closed off mindset. in the past week alone there have been a handful of topics that were discussed in the main thread but cut off because it wasn't about the girls. and yet the discussions were still related to snsd in a way.
What other threads would you like to see created?
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What other threads would you like to see created?
I, for one, would like a J-Pop thread... :angel:

Personally, though, I have no opinion either way. More threads would be nice, but the Chat Thread alone serves its purpose well enough.
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that's a very closed off mindset. in the past week alone there have been a handful of topics that were discussed in the main thread but cut off because it wasn't about the girls. and yet the discussions were still related to snsd in a way.
I agree with Frost and ihla though, we have to smart here and one smart thing is never to forget the purpose of this forum.

It's for lesbians (women who love women) fans of SNSD to talk about SNSD.

Everything else is second place, every other subject and subset of humanity is second place.

We are here, we are queer and we love SNSD. We have no want to attract or accommodate anything/anyone else.

A J-pop thread might be good but I would expand to a general pop thread for all pop except K-pop or "Asian pop" thread because we open a J-pop and then comes the C-pop, etc, etc. Ain't nobody got time for that.
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