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She has perfect tits.
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Sep 18 2013, 09:13 PM
HOLY MOTHER OF ZOMBIES AND THE UNDEAD!! FLDFHDJFLKjfl;ksdfjlkFhfFJL;KSDAHFAHSHGHSGAHSGLAHGD :bleedingeyes: :bleedingeyes: :bleedingeyes:

hope this isnt too explicit

meh magazine but this photo is just.........................

I always thought she's hot and she's actually a Brit haha
Oh :bleedingeyes:
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Sep 18 2013, 09:13 PM
HOLY MOTHER OF ZOMBIES AND THE UNDEAD!! FLDFHDJFLKjfl;ksdfjlkFhfFJL;KSDAHFAHSHGHSGAHSGLAHGD :bleedingeyes: :bleedingeyes: :bleedingeyes:

hope this isnt too explicit

meh magazine but this photo is just.........................

I always thought she's hot and she's actually a Brit haha
Holy shit. Very nice.
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Dyslexia
Sep 18 2013, 09:17 PM
She has perfect tits.
indeed she has :bleedingeyes:
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New trailer! fangurlemo fangurlemo

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^The director* is Algerian, great soundtrack.
I doubt that they'd release it here :''c
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Sep 19 2013, 10:49 PM
New trailer! fangurlemo fangurlemo

seems good. :clap:
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AGSJDGHSFHDFSSS Finally! my GTAV copy arrived home :nosebleed:
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Sep 20 2013, 12:24 AM
^The director* is Algerian, great soundtrack.
I doubt that they'd release it here :''c
Nope he's Tunisian, but still for him to make such a movie :clap:
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Sep 20 2013, 07:46 PM
AGSJDGHSFHDFSSS Finally! my GTAV copy arrived home :nosebleed:
Don't forget about your homework and social life! That's what i'm telling myself to prepare for the Fifa 14 early release tomorrow :rofl:
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loving julia stiles in dexter :wub:
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Sep 20 2013, 07:51 PM
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Sep 20 2013, 07:46 PM
AGSJDGHSFHDFSSS Finally! my GTAV copy arrived home :nosebleed:
Don't forget about your homework and social life! That's what i'm telling myself to prepare for the Fifa 14 early release tomorrow :rofl:
:rofl: I think my social life will be fine but oh, say goodbye to sleep! :giveup:

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Sep 17 2013, 07:24 PM
Oh. My. Gosh!

I went to the supermarket after uni today to get some things and this girl that works there looks like Emilia Clarke.

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Make it happen, windy :gaypimp:
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Sep 20 2013, 12:49 AM
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Sep 19 2013, 10:49 PM
New trailer! fangurlemo fangurlemo

seems good. :clap:
x2 I have to watch this!
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why didnt I discover this sooner? haha, Billi3 and Effy K@ya B-)



an actual spoiler XD
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Sep 20 2013, 09:42 PM
why didnt I discover this sooner? haha, Billi3 and Effy K@ya B-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFw4d7lKtkI

an actual spoiler XD
I remember watching this several months ago and feeling rather disappointed. Looked forward to this episode for months because Effy(she will always be Effy to me) is playing a lesbian but turns out the story was kinda crap. Teacher/student relationships freak me out, it's just not supposed to happen. The ending isn't a happy one because 5 hours later police was standing in front of her home, i'm sure of it. :rofl: :rofl:

Talking about Loving Annabelle that was also a shitty movie. :rofl:

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Make it happen, windy

Gonna go to the supermarket again on Tuesday because that's when she was working there. Probably just to purchase a candy bar or something. :angel:
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^ Buy some Chocomel
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^yeah she will always be Effy to me too hahaha.

It's nothing ground breaking but I sorta liked it, and once again, it's billi3 piper and Effy :lol: .


edit: Im boarding on the Chocomel ship :gaypimp: :rofl:
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Sep 19 2013, 10:49 PM
New trailer! fangurlemo fangurlemo

i'm in love with the blue haired girl, she looks like the girl i've crushed last year :wub:
i literally cant wait
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Dunno if anyone's listened to it, but Mary Lamb3rt released the whole song that the chorus of 'same love' had. I think this is better than the collab with Mackl3more

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Sep 21 2013, 06:46 AM
Dunno if anyone's listened to it, but Mary Lamb3rt released the whole song that the chorus of 'same love' had. I think this is better than the collab with Mackl3more

It's a good song, but not a great one. I like it but don't love it, and prefer the M@cklemore version. But then again, I'm more inclined towards rap/hip hop.

Same L0ve still beings tears to my eyes, and I never cry.

"A piece of paper isn't gonna solve it all, but it's a damn good place to start."

Edit: It's nice to see the love story, whether in Mac's video or in Mary's. Love is love.
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Sep 21 2013, 06:56 AM
It's a good song, but not a great one. I like it but don't love it, and prefer the M@cklemore version. But then again, I'm more inclined towards rap/hip hop.

Same L0ve still beings tears to my eyes, and I never cry.

"A piece of paper isn't gonna solve it all, but it's a damn good place to start."

Edit: It's nice to see the love story, whether in Mac's video or in Mary's. Love is love.
Idk, I have a lot of reservations about "allies" that do things for the community and get recognition for it but actual queer artists - who've been doing the same thing for years - don't.

I think it's an overall positive song and message ofc, I just hate that pop culture has chosen to have a straight man as the voice for the LGBTQ movement in mainstream music.
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^ Why the "allies" thing?
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Sep 21 2013, 07:22 AM
^ Why the "allies" thing?
Because i'm referring to all "allies" ie; people that proclaim to be allies only because it's now trendy and profitable in one way or another.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:17 AM
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Sep 21 2013, 06:56 AM
It's a good song, but not a great one. I like it but don't love it, and prefer the M@cklemore version. But then again, I'm more inclined towards rap/hip hop.

Same L0ve still beings tears to my eyes, and I never cry.

"A piece of paper isn't gonna solve it all, but it's a damn good place to start."

Edit: It's nice to see the love story, whether in Mac's video or in Mary's. Love is love.
Idk, I have a lot of reservations about "allies" that do things for the community and get recognition for it but actual queer artists - who've been doing the same thing for years - don't.

I think it's an overall positive song and message ofc, I just hate that pop culture has chosen to have a straight man as the voice for the LGBTQ movement in mainstream music.
I understand your reservations but he's made an effort to include the community not only in his art but in his fame, and that's more than any rapper of his generation can say. He carries an incredible amount of influence with his name now, and if it's a positive one for the community I'm happy.

The most influential LBGT woman of the past two decades is Ellen, and she's had to be cautious about how she expresses her political opinions because of how mainstream she is, but it is progress nonetheless. And in the larger sphere of mainstream hip hop, Same L0ve's inclusion is really groundbreaking.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:24 AM
Because i'm referring to all "allies" ie; people that proclaim to be allies only because it's now trendy and profitable in one way or another.
And you think the guy who wrote that song is one such "ally", and that being an "ally" like that in some way diminishes the message being communicated?

In all honesty, the very fact that it is such a trendy and/or profitable thing to spread acceptance speaks well in and of itself. Besides, it's a popular issue right now, and like all popular issues, people will be inspired to express their opinions and ideas through artistic mediums. Not all of the people expressing their opinions will be queer. Do you think that's a problem?
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Sep 21 2013, 07:29 AM
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Sep 21 2013, 07:24 AM
Because i'm referring to all "allies" ie; people that proclaim to be allies only because it's now trendy and profitable in one way or another.
And you think the guy who wrote that song is one such "ally", and that being an "ally" like that in some way diminishes the message being communicated?

In all honesty, the very fact that it is such a trendy and/or profitable thing to spread acceptance speaks well in and of itself. Besides, it's a popular issue right now, and like all popular issues, people will be inspired to express their opinions and ideas through artistic mediums. Not all of the people expressing their opinions will be queer. Do you think that's a problem?
Good morning, Arti. Charging into the fray with fists raised lol.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:25 AM
I understand your reservations but he's made an effort to include the community not only in his art but in his fame, and that's more than any rapper of his generation can say. He carries an incredible amount of influence with his name now, and if it's a positive one for the community I'm happy.

The most influential LBGT woman of the past two decades is Ellen, and she's had to be cautious about how she expresses her political opinions because of how mainstream she is, but it is progress nonetheless. And in the larger sphere of mainstream hip hop. Same L0ve's inclusion is really groundbreaking.
He's donated a lot of the money he's made from that song and that's great! But he also fails to make mention that, "hey there are queer artists that you could be listening to in order to learn more from a more genuine perspective". He also never made mention of the many queer people that were involved in making and promoting 'same love' which wouldn't have been so successful had it not been for them. But what really irks me more than anything is that he attempted to reclaim a very common homophobic slur and I don't think that's ok for a straight person to do.

Ellen is also a member of the queer community whereas Macklemore is not; she has more to lose if she gets "too radical for tv" than Macklemore does because queer people on tv and in music can't slip up - can't be those queer people that are staunchly adamant about what they stand for because media can't handle that right now; it makes most viewers (straight ones) uncomfortable if you make them aware of what LGBTQ people go through at the hands of straight people and make them feel bad for hurting you.

Like I said, I like what it's been doing for the community (at least on some level) but I think it's important to analyze the faults within his methods of support - and as an ally, he should expect that type of reluctance.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:32 AM
Good morning, Arti. Charging into the fray with fists raised lol.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:39 AM
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Sep 21 2013, 07:32 AM
Good morning, Arti. Charging into the fray with fists raised lol.
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Aww, bb. Wanna sink into the restful slumber of my bewb hug? I'm really good at it.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:37 AM
He's donated a lot of the money he's made from that song and that's great! But he also fails to make mention that, "hey there are queer artists that you could be listening to in order to learn more from a more genuine perspective". He also never made mention of the many queer people that were involved in making and promoting 'same love' which wouldn't have been so successful had it not been for them. But what really irks me more than anything is that he attempted to reclaim a very common homophobic slur and I don't think that's ok for a straight person to do.

Ellen is also a member of the queer community whereas Macklemore is not; she has more to lose if she gets "too radical for tv" than Macklemore does because queer people on tv and in music can't slip up - can't be those queer people that are staunchly adamant about what they stand for because media can't handle that right now; it makes most viewers (straight ones) uncomfortable if you make them aware that them feel bad for hurting you.

Like I said, I like what it's been doing for the community (at least on some level) but I think it's important to analyze the faults within his methods of support - and as an ally, he should expect that type of reluctance.
Do you feel that, as an artist and a businessman, he's obliged to recommend niche artists to listen to? Or that he has to research for unheard-of queer artists before expressing his opinion on the matter? Would you say that Mackles, if making a song on, say, his opinion of intervention in Syria, would be obliged to recommend lesser artists that have perhaps made a study of modern Syrian history? If someone decided to write a poem on supporting state health care, would you make it a requirement of citing lesser-known writers or poets to be truly considered an advocate of such a system?

Many artists don't give shout-outs to every single person assisting in the making of a music video or a song, and that's perfectly logical. There are often too many of them for it to be reasonable or practical to do so, and I think expecting that of him is incredibly unfair and very irrational, and that doesn't change simply because he happens to be speaking on a subject that you view, as socially sensitive.

He has a platform on which he might choose to express his political views, and he chose to spread a message of acceptance. It's all well and good to say, "he can do more" - he can, but so can everyone else. There's always more to be done. That doesn't mean we can't laud what is being done, and I think it is laudable. He clearly care about the issue enough to donate and attempt to draw attention to it using his fame, which is good enough.

I'd feel uncomfortable if I were watching someone who wasn't a person, but an embodiment of a cause, because not only does that alienate your target market, it removes you from the whole damn market in the first place. I don't want to watch someone preach on a soapbox, I want to watch a TV personality host a talk show and be their funny self. If Ellen wants to campaign in her private life, that's great, I hope she does well! Otherwise, keep it off TV - that's not the point of her show, and she knows it.

On a semi-related note, I think it's good to keep in mind that you're not qualified to speak for all queer people, either. Queers aren't this homogenous hive-mind that you immediately understand more simply through the benefit of being born amongst them - they're people, and have just as varied opinions as the straight community, as well.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:55 AM
Do you feel that, as an artist and a businessman, he's obliged to recommend niche artists to listen to? Or that he has to research for unheard-of queer artists before expressing his opinion on the matter? Would you say that Mackles, if making a song on, say, his opinion of intervention in Syria, would be obliged to recommend lesser artists that have perhaps made a study of modern Syrian history? If someone decided to write a poem on supporting state health care, would you make it a requirement of citing lesser-known writers or poets to be truly considered an advocate of such a system?

Many artists don't give shout-outs to every single person assisting in the making of a music video or a song, and that's perfectly logical. There are often too many of them for it to be reasonable or practical to do so, and I think expecting that of him is incredibly unfair and very irrational, and that doesn't change simply because he happens to be speaking on a subject that you view, as socially sensitive.

He has a platform on which he might choose to express his political views, and he chose to spread a message of acceptance. It's all well and good to say, "he can do more" - he can, but so can everyone else. There's always more to be done. That doesn't mean we can't laud what is being done, and I think it is laudable. He clearly care about the issue enough to donate and attempt to draw attention to it using his fame, which is good enough.

I'd feel uncomfortable if I were watching someone who wasn't a person, but an embodiment of a cause, because not only does that alienate your target market, it removes you from the whole damn market in the first place. I don't want to watch someone preach on a soapbox, I want to watch a TV personality host a talk show and be their funny self. If Ellen wants to campaign in her private life, that's great, I hope she does well! Otherwise, keep it off TV - that's not the point of her show, and she knows it.

On a semi-related note, I think it's good to keep in mind that you're not qualified to speak for all queer people, either. Queers aren't this homogenous hive-mind that you immediately understand more simply through the benefit of being born amongst them - they're people, and have just as varied opinions as the straight community, as well.
When they're member of a group he proclaims to support, then yes. In the case of Mary Lambert which I was implicitly referring to, he doesn't have to research her - he preforms with her. Yet he never has taken the 2 seconds it would take to give her recognition (though now, she is gaining some but she's still not very popular).

He doesn't have to recognize them all individually, that takes time and i'm aware of that. But a simple shoutout to all the LGBTQ people who've helped made that track what it is today would suffice.

That's nice you feel that way. I feel another; Macklemore's actions very much have mixed reception in the queer community and i'm definitely well aware of that. If you've noticed, I said that I have reservations about him, and I go on to explain why. I don't attempt to speak for others obviously i've been having a conversation with DZ and she feels the opposite way and that's totally fine.
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Sep 21 2013, 07:41 AM
Aww, bb. Wanna sink into the restful slumber of my bewb hug? I'm really good at it.
I'm cool. I'm mostly just hungry, so if you can cook... :'(
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Aww, bb. Wanna sink into the restful slumber of my bewb hug? I'm really good at it.
I'm cool. I'm mostly just hungry, so if you can cook... :'(
I can cook most anything. Whatyou want?
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Sep 21 2013, 08:07 AM
I can cook most anything. Whatyou want?
Spaghetti, please. :'(
I'm having Shepard's Pie tonight and then I'm having tortilla wraps for pussies who can't handle spice tomorrow. :hyper:

...Should probably be chat thread, now.
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