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Don't worry about the m@m@ voting thing. It only counts for like 10% into the final result. Other factors come into the final result too... I pretty sure snsd will wins the artist of the year again and maybe best album too. Best female group is probably between them and s1star.
If $M decided to them to assist
They're more on WhyyGee side but yeah that could happen. But I'm pretty sure best artist will go to gg.
$m and mn3t have the worst relationship ever.
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
Don't worry about the m@m@ voting thing. It only counts for like 10% into the final result. Other factors come into the final result too... I pretty sure snsd will wins the artist of the year again and maybe best album too. Best female group is probably between them and s1star.
If $M decided to them to assist
They're more on WhyyGee side but yeah that could happen. But I'm pretty sure best artist will go to gg.
$m and mn3t have the worst relationship ever.
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
here, take a look. SNSD's history with M4m4 awards
Don't worry about the m@m@ voting thing. It only counts for like 10% into the final result. Other factors come into the final result too... I pretty sure snsd will wins the artist of the year again and maybe best album too. Best female group is probably between them and s1star.
If $M decided to them to assist
They're more on WhyyGee side but yeah that could happen. But I'm pretty sure best artist will go to gg.
$m and mn3t have the worst relationship ever.
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
DA
if im not wrong Tiffany's interview with T0m was for Mnet so it could be they are ok now
They're more on WhyyGee side but yeah that could happen. But I'm pretty sure best artist will go to gg.
$m and mn3t have the worst relationship ever.
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
here, take a look. SNSD's history with M4m4 awards
op
things got better after 2011. it's almost expected that snsd will win best artist (if not one of the big 3 award), even if they want to be bias there will be uproar because there are no groups right now that can compete with them. it would looks ridiculous on their part if some nugus win.
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
here, take a look. SNSD's history with M4m4 awards
op
things got better after 2011. it's almost expected that snsd will win best artist (if not one of the big 3 award), even if they want to be bias there will be uproar because there are no groups right now that can compete with them. it would looks ridiculous on their part if some nugus win.
For the fellow anon who was asking about Tiffany gif video.
thank you! i've been looking for this everywhere.
is there a tiffany cut? the video doesn't include this part
DA
lol her face. Was she telling some girl to wear it or something?
I fucking love sm for letting her be own this show. I've always wanted to see Tiffany being herself. Just as Tiffany not as "SNSD's Tiffany" That's why I LOVE factory girl. She was so charming and cool on that show
Fany's always forgotten in variety shows because she doesn't have a korean sense of humor and gets understood very easily. Hello baby sucked... stupid kid.
Da I agree
A show like this she can show herself imo so I'm excited
here, take a look. SNSD's history with M4m4 awards
op
things got better after 2011. it's almost expected that snsd will win best artist (if not one of the big 3 award), even if they want to be bias there will be uproar because there are no groups right now that can compete with them. it would looks ridiculous on their part if some nugus win.
hasn't stopped them before tho
that's because $M boyscotted. Their artists doesn't not attend, which give them (mn3t) excuse to not give them the award since they have some stupid-ass policy that if you don't attend, you don't win.
And they could get away with it because there's 21; doesn't look too bad.
They're more on WhyyGee side but yeah that could happen. But I'm pretty sure best artist will go to gg.
$m and mn3t have the worst relationship ever.
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
DA
if im not wrong Tiffany's interview with T0m was for Mnet so it could be they are ok now
they are not okay. mn3t is letting them on shows... only because they know that sm idols are the most wanted and popular ones. They treat almost every group badly. SNSD is an exception since they have the "national girl group" title. But they're rude towards other sm idols like 3x0, effex or h3nry.
cj and mn3t are the biggest supporters of jaywhyjay. They even let them appear on shows and stages even though sm put a ban on them and are trying to block them completely. They're trying to piss sm off
i think it's a tts comeback because $m wants shiny and xo to win all the awards this year. if snsd comes back then their album sales will be added to snsd's total album sales but if tts comes back their album sales will not be added to snsd's total sales.
Unless it was igab repackage the sales wouldn't count
Shiny and 3xo have had repackages for the same album which all count together
Though igab was only one and still first on g**m chart over their multiple versions lol so a new record could outset them too
I feel like it will be tts I don't mind cause I liked their mini a lot
i think it's a tts comeback because $m wants shiny and xo to win all the awards this year. if snsd comes back then their album sales will be added to snsd's total album sales but if tts comes back their album sales will not be added to snsd's total sales.
Unless it was igab repackage the sales wouldn't count
Shiny and 3xo have had repackages for the same album which all count together
Though igab was only one and still first on g**m chart over their multiple versions lol so a new record could outset them too
I feel like it will be tts I don't mind cause I liked their mini a lot
i got a boy is still the best selling album of 2013.
i think it's a tts comeback because $m wants shiny and xo to win all the awards this year. if snsd comes back then their album sales will be added to snsd's total album sales but if tts comes back their album sales will not be added to snsd's total sales.
Unless it was igab repackage the sales wouldn't count
Shiny and 3xo have had repackages for the same album which all count together
Though igab was only one and still first on g**m chart over their multiple versions lol so a new record could outset them too
I feel like it will be tts I don't mind cause I liked their mini a lot
i got a boy is still the best selling album of 2013.
snsd's sales have increased so much in the last few years. Oh! sold around 200,193 and this album had gee, genie and oh on it.
I got a boy had nothing on it and sold more than 288k (last update september)
i think it's a tts comeback because $m wants shiny and xo to win all the awards this year. if snsd comes back then their album sales will be added to snsd's total album sales but if tts comes back their album sales will not be added to snsd's total sales.
Unless it was igab repackage the sales wouldn't count
Shiny and 3xo have had repackages for the same album which all count together
Though igab was only one and still first on g**m chart over their multiple versions lol so a new record could outset them too
I feel like it will be tts I don't mind cause I liked their mini a lot
i got a boy is still the best selling album of 2013.
snsd's sales have increased so much in the last few years. Oh! sold around 200,193 and this album had gee, genie and oh on it.
I got a boy had nothing on it and sold more than 288k (last update september)
even twinkle sold way more rdr
if snsd loses against sist4r or 4minut3... we know why mn3t is biased as faq
-2008: Mnet proposed to SME that they wanna be the distributor of music produced by SME -SME refused the offer as they had the ability to distribute their own music and did not feel the need to pay Mn3t for a job that they could do themselves -Mn3t held a grudge against SME -CJ and Mn3t are backing the three members of jayyjay in order to win their fight against SME -sm artists wre not allowed to perform at any mn3et shows. and even though they were nominated at mn3t awards they could never win since mn3t didn't want to give an award to any sm artist
-things between started to get better but recently they pulled of 3x0 and effex from the show... at the last minute. They weren't even allowed to appear on mn3t wide studio.
DA
if im not wrong Tiffany's interview with T0m was for Mnet so it could be they are ok now
they are not okay. mn3t is letting them on shows... only because they know that sm idols are the most wanted and popular ones. They treat almost every group badly. SNSD is an exception since they have the "national girl group" title. But they're rude towards other sm idols like 3x0, effex or h3nry.
cj and mn3t are the biggest supporters of jaywhyjay. They even let them appear on shows and stages even though sm put a ban on them and are trying to block them completely. They're trying to piss sm off
imo looking at how 3 or 4 $M groups are nominated, its either all of them attending or no one . and well it could be a huge mess if they dont attend.
lol her face. Was she telling some girl to wear it or something?
I fucking love sm for letting her be own this show. I've always wanted to see Tiffany being herself. Just as Tiffany not as "SNSD's Tiffany" That's why I LOVE factory girl. She was so charming and cool on that show
Fany's always forgotten in variety shows because she doesn't have a korean sense of humor and gets understood very easily. Hello baby sucked... stupid kid.
Da I agree
A show like this she can show herself imo so I'm excited
DA
x3 I think one of the biggest charms of Tiffany is her passion and determination. Regular variety show where humor is most emphasized, she can't really be herself.
Hello B@by and F@ctory Girls are some of the shows that really let her personality shine through in a sense that people realize some of the things that she's about and that maybe they have misunderstood her one way or another. I saw a lot of people converted into Tiffany's fans or changed their mind about her after Hello B@by actually. And it's one of the shoes that really made me like her more as a person rather as an artist I happen to like
i got a boy is still the best selling album of 2013.
snsd's sales have increased so much in the last few years. Oh! sold around 200,193 and this album had gee, genie and oh on it.
I got a boy had nothing on it and sold more than 288k (last update september)
even twinkle sold way more rdr
if snsd loses against sist4r or 4minut3... we know why mn3t is biased as faq
DA
if SNSD loses , it can create problems bcs in this year even 2n31 are not even close to them.
Counting everything that happened in 2013 , SNSD slayed every girl group when it comes to everything , beside digital sales and still even there they did amazing.
I fucking love sm for letting her be own this show. I've always wanted to see Tiffany being herself. Just as Tiffany not as "SNSD's Tiffany" That's why I LOVE factory girl. She was so charming and cool on that show
Fany's always forgotten in variety shows because she doesn't have a korean sense of humor and gets understood very easily. Hello baby sucked... stupid kid.
Da I agree
A show like this she can show herself imo so I'm excited
DA
x3 I think one of the biggest charms of Tiffany is her passion and determination. Regular variety show where humor is most emphasized, she can't really be herself.
Hello B@by and F@ctory Girls are some of the shows that really let her personality shine through in a sense that people realize some of the things that she's about and that maybe they have misunderstood her one way or another. I saw a lot of people converted into Tiffany's fans or changed their mind about her after Hello B@by actually. And it's one of the shoes that really made me like her more as a person rather as an artist I happen to like
da i love her and i love her determination and drive i can't wait for the show i just wish as a fan for her to stop doing those gestures please fany i am begging just be your stepho self no aegyo needed i can't with those gestures anymore
if im not wrong Tiffany's interview with T0m was for Mnet so it could be they are ok now
they are not okay. mn3t is letting them on shows... only because they know that sm idols are the most wanted and popular ones. They treat almost every group badly. SNSD is an exception since they have the "national girl group" title. But they're rude towards other sm idols like 3x0, effex or h3nry.
cj and mn3t are the biggest supporters of jaywhyjay. They even let them appear on shows and stages even though sm put a ban on them and are trying to block them completely. They're trying to piss sm off
imo looking at how 3 or 4 $M groups are nominated, its either all of them attending or no one . and well it could be a huge mess if they dont attend.
Naw, highly doubt all of them are going to attend, the ones who are going to win at the awards are going to attend. Probably two or three of them, no more
A show like this she can show herself imo so I'm excited
DA
x3 I think one of the biggest charms of Tiffany is her passion and determination. Regular variety show where humor is most emphasized, she can't really be herself.
Hello B@by and F@ctory Girls are some of the shows that really let her personality shine through in a sense that people realize some of the things that she's about and that maybe they have misunderstood her one way or another. I saw a lot of people converted into Tiffany's fans or changed their mind about her after Hello B@by actually. And it's one of the shoes that really made me like her more as a person rather as an artist I happen to like
da i love her and i love her determination and drive i can't wait for the show i just wish as a fan for her to stop doing those gestures please fany i am begging just be your stepho self no aegyo needed i can't with those gestures anymore
they're is no way that snsd will not win.
They have the best selling albums since 2010. G4on charts is neither fake nor bs. Numbers don't lie.... unlike some companies (sist4r, 4minut3,...) who are bulk buying their artists singles and album in order to make them look like top idols...when they have empy halls and seats since no one attends their concerts