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SNSD (Girls' Generation) Part 3
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Come on, you should know that "throwing money at something" doesn't make them succeed. You all complain about 3xo being flops despite $M funding them more than any other artist on that label.

What SNSD needs is smart management and innovation, not more money.
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lol another new fancammer? this girl is often mia this year but still gets new fancammers :lol:
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they will all flop is the states. I don't think anyone who truly likes them would want them to promote in america. It's embarassing and useless. America doesn't like a group who's full of asians, whether its boys or girls. There's no diversity
that's not the problem. they would actually diversify the market if they succeeded, but americans don't take asians seriously at all. there's no major asian artist or actor in the industry. america media is as white as ever rn.
not all

we still have mike shinoda, norah jones, jo hahn, James Iha, bruno mars, far east movement

they half asian and they famous
only ones with name recognition are bruno mars and norah jones (even then she's obscure now and most people don't even know ravi shankar is her dad). FEM had one popular song and i don't even know who those other people are.
omg! You don't know who they are?
james Iha from smashing pumkins
mike shinoda and jon hahn from linkin park

they are f*ckin famous :D
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they will all flop is the states. I don't think anyone who truly likes them would want them to promote in america. It's embarassing and useless. America doesn't like a group who's full of asians, whether its boys or girls. There's no diversity
that's not the problem. they would actually diversify the market if they succeeded, but americans don't take asians seriously at all. there's no major asian artist or actor in the industry. america media is as white as ever rn.
not all

we still have mike shinoda, norah jones, jo hahn, James Iha, bruno mars, far east movement

they half asian and they famous
Again, mostly solo acts...
Nine girls doing coreographed dances will be associated automaticaly to cheerleading (not hot omg music).



That said, I do believe they should release songs in English, not for the US market but for their international market.
DA. and got them to sing something like "Oh boi do you believe dat situation? Yeah" again?
lol no thanks lol, $M is bad at choosing/writing English lyrics.
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they will all flop is the states. I don't think anyone who truly likes them would want them to promote in america. It's embarassing and useless. America doesn't like a group who's full of asians, whether its boys or girls. There's no diversity
that's not the problem. they would actually diversify the market if they succeeded, but americans don't take asians seriously at all. there's no major asian artist or actor in the industry. america media is as white as ever rn.
not all

we still have mike shinoda, norah jones, jo hahn, James Iha, bruno mars, far east movement

they half asian and they famous
Again, mostly solo acts...
Nine girls doing coreographed dances will be associated automaticaly to cheerleading (not hot omg music).



That said, I do believe they should release songs in English, not for the US market but for their international market.
Yup, for international market. :)
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Come on, you should know that "throwing money at something" doesn't make them succeed. You all complain about 3xo being flops despite $M funding them more than any other artist on that label.

What SNSD needs is smart management and innovation, not more money.
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yup def smart management and innovation but i think money comes alongside all those things

true to achieve success you need a great formula/idea/plan but you also need the funds to support it

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not all

we still have mike shinoda, norah jones, jo hahn, James Iha, bruno mars, far east movement

they half asian and they famous
Again, mostly solo acts...
Nine girls doing coreographed dances will be associated automaticaly to cheerleading (not hot omg music).



That said, I do believe they should release songs in English, not for the US market but for their international market.
DA. and got them to sing something like "Oh boi do you believe dat situation? Yeah" again?
lol no thanks lol, $M is bad at choosing/writing English lyrics.
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sm not producer. just hire A list producer. and let them take care of everything not $m but the a list producer
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yup def smart management and innovation but i think money comes alongside all those things

true to achieve success you need a great formula/idea/plan but you also need the funds to support it

Money only helps if you know where to put it, otherwise it becomes a useless commodity. They became a huge hit with Gee, and they were hardly rolling in the big dolla then.

I also think people are expecting more of SNSD than what they are. They're idols, not musicians - $M isn't interested in giving them musical legitimacy, and with good reason.
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Come on, you should know that "throwing money at something" doesn't make them succeed. You all complain about 3xo being flops despite $M funding them more than any other artist on that label.

What SNSD needs is smart management and innovation, not more money.
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yup def smart management and innovation but i think money comes alongside all those things

true to achieve success you need a great formula/idea/plan but you also need the funds to support it

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yup smart management and fresh

of course we need a lot of money for that.
but. all of it will pay off
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what about a mix of korean and english?
like get the girls who have good pronunciation to sing in english, and those who are more comfortable singing in korean to do so?
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yup def smart management and innovation but i think money comes alongside all those things

true to achieve success you need a great formula/idea/plan but you also need the funds to support it

Money only helps if you know where to put it, otherwise it becomes a useless commodity. They became a huge hit with Gee, and they were hardly rolling in the big dolla then.

I also think people are expecting more of SNSD than what they are. They're idols, not musicians - $M isn't interested in giving them musical legitimacy, and with good reason.
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i hate $m

why they do not give snsd music legitimacy??? what a good reason?
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not all

we still have mike shinoda, norah jones, jo hahn, James Iha, bruno mars, far east movement

they half asian and they famous
Again, mostly solo acts...
Nine girls doing coreographed dances will be associated automaticaly to cheerleading (not hot omg music).



That said, I do believe they should release songs in English, not for the US market but for their international market.
DA. and got them to sing something like "Oh boi do you believe dat situation? Yeah" again?
lol no thanks lol, $M is bad at choosing/writing English lyrics.
I'm waiting for Cheap Creeper full ver. It's catchy.
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what about a mix of korean and english?
like get the girls who have good pronunciation to sing in english, and those who are more comfortable singing in korean to do so?
possibly :)

like 5h. they did. english and spanish with their song "miss movin on"
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what about a mix of korean and english?
like get the girls who have good pronunciation to sing in english, and those who are more comfortable singing in korean to do so?
and people will complain becuz steph n jessi get most lines :ermm:
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i wonder why sm continues outsourcing music from europe and america. snsd only got their break bc e-trib3 wrote gee. sometimes i wonder what direction snsd could have taken if they had mostly homegrown songwriters and choreographers do the work.
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snsd was a group that was never meant for the american market, so sm shouldn't try to force their way in now. it's like when you shoot a movie in 2D and then later decide it's so good that it should be converted into 3D, but in the end the results aren't even good and they should have saved their money and kept it in the original format.
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what about a mix of korean and english?
like get the girls who have good pronunciation to sing in english, and those who are more comfortable singing in korean to do so?
and people will complain becuz steph n jessi get most lines :ermm:
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LBR, all they really need to succeed is a hit song. Doesn't matter if there's 9 members, doesn't matter if they're asian, all they need is a damn good song and they can make it anywhere.
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what about a mix of korean and english?
like get the girls who have good pronunciation to sing in english, and those who are more comfortable singing in korean to do so?
and people will complain becuz steph n jessi get most lines :ermm:
Da fany had no lines in the boys so that's just assuming lol

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what about a mix of korean and english?
like get the girls who have good pronunciation to sing in english, and those who are more comfortable singing in korean to do so?
lol, that sounds like a mess. The only way it'd work is if some songs were in full Korean and some were in full English, but the bilingual members would have far too many lines and doubtless people will complain, so there has to be exclusivity.

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i hate $m

why they do not give snsd music legitimacy??? what a good reason?
Like I said, it's because SNSD are idols. They're not there to give people genre diversity or creative expression, they're there to give manufactured, polished pop music that's catchy enough to listen to without having to think much about it. Idols are products within themselves.

That doesn't mean they can't get good music simultaneously, but it's never going to be a priority.
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LBR, all they really need to succeed is a hit song. Doesn't matter if there's 9 members, doesn't matter if they're asian, all they need is a damn good song and they can make it anywhere.
Not really

There are plenty of damn good songs that go unnoticed
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LBR, all they really need to succeed is a hit song. Doesn't matter if there's 9 members, doesn't matter if they're asian, all they need is a damn good song and they can make it anywhere.
actually it matters that they're asian

i find that americans find it difficult to accept anything that's too foreign and different which will then affect whether they get radio airplay
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snsd was a group that was never meant for the american market, so sm shouldn't try to force their way in now. it's like when you shoot a movie in 2D and then later decide it's so good that it should be converted into 3D, but in the end the results aren't even good and they should have saved their money and kept it in the original format.
just look at now how famous 1dir3ti0n
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i wonder why sm continues outsourcing music from europe and america. snsd only got their break bc e-trib3 wrote gee. sometimes i wonder what direction snsd could have taken if they had mostly homegrown songwriters and choreographers do the work.
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coz their beliefs. they build their confidence with them as songwriter
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LBR, all they really need to succeed is a hit song. Doesn't matter if there's 9 members, doesn't matter if they're asian, all they need is a damn good song and they can make it anywhere.
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like what i say before. they need HIT SONG from A list producer

just buy song from producer of which i've mentioned before. that's it.

smart management, good idea, fresh and money
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I just want them to release another successful Korean single tbh

...then have them back on variety shows, radio shows...music shows...
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I just want them to release another successful Korean single tbh

...then have them back on variety shows, radio shows...music shows...
i'd be pretty satisfied with this given that sm give them a good song, good choreography and don't put them back in the box.

unlikely but a girl can dream.
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yup def smart management and innovation but i think money comes alongside all those things

true to achieve success you need a great formula/idea/plan but you also need the funds to support it

Money only helps if you know where to put it, otherwise it becomes a useless commodity. They became a huge hit with Gee, and they were hardly rolling in the big dolla then.

I also think people are expecting more of SNSD than what they are. They're idols, not musicians - $M isn't interested in giving them musical legitimacy, and with good reason.
sa i agree money is useless unless utilized wisely

now i don't know what $m's intentions are with the girls
i was never familiar with the idol concept. all i knew was good music, mediocre music and crappy music. when i first heard of the girls it was through their music although it was their personalities which made me a complete goner! i don't support snsd any differently to any western artist i like. so all i expect from them is good music. sure, i want the extras like shows and stuff but which fan doesn't. you're probably right in that there is a difference between an idol and a ?"regular" musician. but being an international fan i already viewed them as musicians. like i said the idol concept is very alien to me.

i think all it would take for them to ??peak again is another great album with great songs and wicked choreography. i think they would also have to promote diligently as well. but like someone said i dont think the girls themselves get much say. and like you said, i think $m just wants to get the most profit out of them
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