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| Topic Started: Apr 9 2010, 12:05 AM (12,767 Views) | |
| johnnywalkitoff | Apr 9 2010, 12:05 AM Post #1 |
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hey you guys let me know what grahic novles (OR comics I should be reading in your opinions)i should read...very drunk....i used to read comic on the reg whats good these days. thanks compadres. got a few jimmy corrigan and batman and son volume one. please and thanks...friends.. |
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| Funhouse | Apr 9 2010, 05:24 AM Post #2 |
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Here are some that I recommend: 100 Great Comics / Graphic Novels |
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| oneofmurphysbiscuits | Apr 9 2010, 05:38 AM Post #3 |
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Krazy Kat (i've bookmarked Funhouse's list, and Bruce Murnard, so apologies if you've counted in Herriman, Funhouse) |
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| I Am Not Hamlet | Apr 9 2010, 08:38 AM Post #4 |
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100% by Paul Pope, Kabuki by David Mack (phenomenal), Asterios Polyp by David Mazzuchelli, King City by Brandon Graham... Ashley Wood, Seth Fisher... |
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| Funhouse | Apr 9 2010, 09:31 AM Post #5 |
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No, Herriman's not on the list. I've only seen a little of Krazy Kat. Must check out more. |
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| Funhouse | Apr 9 2010, 09:34 AM Post #6 |
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I've been wanting to read Asterios Polyp since I first heard about it. I love Mazzuchelli's work, especially with the adaptation of City of Glass. And yes, Paul Pope is highly recommended. Kabuki, though, I tried recently, and I couldn't even finish the first volume. I found it tiresome. |
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| Jacek | Apr 9 2010, 05:57 PM Post #7 |
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If you don't scorn manga, I HIGHLY recommend Urasawa Naoki's work. He's one of my favorite storytellers, period, and if he were working in the literature medium (and if he were as good in it as in that of graphic novels) he'd be right up there with all the heavyweights. Seriously, this man knows how to spin an extremely moving & thoughtprovoking tale. He tackles some really heavy stuff, and does it in the most compelling way imaginable. His artwork is also fantastic, his expertise being the depth of feeling he can portray in faces, plus his apparently natural talent for storyboards. Anyhow, I recommend any/all of his serious/mature work (it also helps that a lot of it is expertly translated): Monster 20th Century Boys Pluto Billy Bat [currently serialized] I seriously can't recommend this guy's work enough. |
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| Deleted User | Apr 9 2010, 06:36 PM Post #8 |
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I strongly recommend "The Invisibles" by Grant Morrison. In fact, don't wait or hesitate, just order the first volume "say you want a revolution" straight away. I'm still figuring out how to write about this. then IMMEDIATELY, order "epileptic" by David B. I SWEAR solemny and all that shit you'll love it as you'll love Jeff Smith's "Bone" (!!!!!) and "Rasl" (my review) and Yoshihiro Tatsumi’s “A Drifting Life” (my review) Then "STRAY TOASTERS" by Bill Sienkiewicz, a drunk crazy rSF? romp with incredible art (and if you like it, go straight for Frank MIller's "Electra" run, with art by Siekiewicz) and while we're at superheroes, why not read Grant Morrison' "Arkham Asylum" (1 volume) , Alan Moore's "Swamp Thing" (First volume: "The Saga of the Swamp Thing") Mark Millar's "wanted", and the first third of Grant Morrison's X-Men run ("New X-Men: Ultimate collection 1") |
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| Bleak | Apr 9 2010, 08:44 PM Post #9 |
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all good works, although I have mixed feelings about Naoki Urasawa (who probably deserves his own thread). |
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| ElAleph | Apr 9 2010, 10:10 PM Post #10 |
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I just started reading "The Invisibles." Amazing, yet very unsettling. It makes me vaguely uncomfortable (I'm not sure what about it makes me uncomfortable, I just get the feeling) but I can't put it down. The only other time I've ever had such a reading experience is with Yukio Mishima. I don't know what to say about "The Invisibles." How do you approach it, Canox (or anyone else who has read it)? |
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| Cave Hinds | Apr 9 2010, 11:18 PM Post #11 |
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For you, I'm thinking Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis, a Hunter S. Thompson inspired sci-fi romp. You would probably like Preacher, too, and maybe 100 Bullets. Of course there's some of Alan Moore's stuff and the obligatory superhero shit. Y: The Last Man is good in the official nerdy-shit-to-read kind of way. Those are the stand-outs, and I don't think there's a hundred comic books/graphic novels to read. I don't think you'll like Fables or anything by Brian Wood (including the overrated DMZ), but that's only an assumption. Blankets is good, but I continue to wonder about its worth. For Manga, I'd definitely would judge the book by its cover.... |
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| Porphry | Apr 10 2010, 02:26 AM Post #12 |
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I second that. Plus, maybe I'm being obvious, but I absolutely love Caricature by Daniel Clowes. Not as well known as his other things, but its one of my favourite books. |
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| I Am Not Hamlet | Apr 10 2010, 02:51 AM Post #13 |
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The first volume of Kabuki is the weakest, I think. Each volume gets better and better -- the art starts to change into more fine art and interesting collages and paintings, the story slows down A LOT (one volume is a long internal monolouge of her in the hospital, i think), and its keeps improving, diving deeper and deeper into interesting ideas. I didnt like the first volume, Reflections and Alchemy are really good, my favorites., and the one before Alchemy. Give Kabuki a shot backwards and you will like it so much more. Polyp is real good and interesting. Moves real fast too. 20th Century Boys is good manga. Most manga has the problem of being serialized, so you will be reading volumes of cliffhangers and tons of drawn out scenes and ideas. 20th century boys avoids drawing things out and moves real fast but its a series of only cliffhangers, for the most part. Check out, in terms of manga, Uzumaki. its a great 20 issue horror manga, real freaky story and beautiful, unsettling art. One of the best at what it does. Also: "DeathNote" is a great one to look into. Actually, I highly recommend DeathNote. Its really really good. Transmetropolitan is a really good series too. Warren Ellis is an interesting writer and Transmet just works, especially with the art-- all the little bits crammed in everywhere to keep it so much fun, despite its serious themes. I really liked DMZ (but its cause I live in NY), and though Invisibles and Y: The Last Man were overrated I really stopped liking Invisibles halfway through the first volume. It was just annoying. I never really got into 100 Bullets, but I wouldnt recommend anything in this paragraph other than transmet to start off with. Maybe once you really want to start pushing, these are great series' to look into. Not priority by all means. I;d say Tank Girl is a lot of fun too, and is really good to cheer you up. A Drifting Life (manga) is really good too. |
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| suzannahhh | Apr 10 2010, 06:13 AM Post #14 |
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ALan Moore's Promethea outatanding!! |
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| johnnywalkitoff | Apr 10 2010, 05:00 PM Post #15 |
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making bets on kentucky derby day
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I quit reading comic books so i could get laid and i was pretty obsessive compulsive about collecting them (the sleeves, etc.) (and now who do i got to impress)...the last stuff non super hero stuff I remember reading was sandman and preacher; always loved x-men and wolverine (bought wolverine old man logan by millar)...have all the frank miller daredevil. the old green lantern when hal went crazy and was killed (only to be back) were good. thanks and keep throwing out names. |
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| jes | Apr 13 2010, 04:13 PM Post #16 |
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i've been reading this nonfiction, scott mccloud's understanding comics. it's told in panel format and has been a really great read so far. sortof establishing a base for criticism of comics. for instance, it examines different types of panel transitions that are used: action to action, scene to scene, aspect to aspect etc.. this, in particular, leads to some interesting if superfluous explorations into contrasting the popularity of different panel transition types between successful american, european, and japanese comics. methods for representing time and space and effecting our experiences of such are given separate chapters as well as more about panel borders and the space inbetween as well as some lite psychology in relation to comics (i.e. closure) and the appeal of cartoons. it's certainly given me more to consider about comics along with some vocab and concepts to do it with |
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| Deleted User | Apr 13 2010, 04:22 PM Post #17 |
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*sigh* |
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| Funhouse | Apr 13 2010, 08:45 PM Post #18 |
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Oh yeah, Understanding Comics is really terrific. So great to use excerpts of in school to explain concepts to the students (we teach Maus). |
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| Funhouse | Apr 25 2010, 09:39 PM Post #19 |
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I went to a series of panels on comics on Saturday that were absolutely terrific. I wrote a rare blog post on it which has lots of links to all the work of the creators. You should check them out. They're all super talented. Blah Blah Blah: A Blog About Books Edited by Funhouse, Apr 29 2010, 06:36 AM.
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| Funhouse | Nov 1 2010, 05:35 AM Post #20 |
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Apart from Nicki Greenberg's incredible Hamlet (see separate thread), lately I've read a comic called The Umbrella Academy written by the lead singer of My Chemical Romance, Gerard Way. Normally I would run a mile from that, but I was seduced by the fact it was drawn by Gabriel Bá, who is very good, and had an introduction by Grant Morrison, who recommended it highly. The comic reads like a Grant Morrison comic written by someone with 1/100th of his talent. Not recommended by me. I have just finished a really good one, though: Wasteland by Antony Johnston and Christopher Mitten. Excellent post-apocalyptic fare. And I'm really looking forward to the new Charles Burns book: X'ed Out. He annotates a page from it for New York Magazine. |
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