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Brain Storming Session
Topic Started: Nov 18 2010, 12:51:53 AM (284 Views)
Brice|F4llen
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we are getting alot of new members lately and they are lacking on essential warring skills.

we need to organize ways to teach our newer members the skills they need to know to claim a win in a war. so share your ideas here, who knows maybe we will come up with something brilliant.

my oppinion:

there are no amount of guides or videos someone can watch or read to make them good in a war. being an asset rather than a liability require good ol' experience.

yes, guides are informational and so are videos. but there are elements that cant be learned through guides. ex. how to glance at your mini map, disect the enemy spread and properly position your self to where you are out of harms way but still able to deal damage. things like that just take experience and there really is no way around it.

if we want to make our less experienced members better, tank tests, guides, instructional videos are NOT things we need to be equipting them with as their primary tool. thats not to say such things arent beneficial, there is no doubt they dont hurt and more than likely they do help. we need to equip our less experienced members with more experience, PERIOD. throw them in to wars head first, its sink or swim, trial and error. they wont learn unless they mess up.

i know its hard to throw in noobs into a prep that matters. we need to protect our #1 matched rank and playing our best is what we need to be doing. i reccomend we give the newer members the experience they need by mini's and inners to start with. the LB needs to push for more inners and mini's and apply more pressure on members to attend them.

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more inners :)
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Adam
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watch a lot of prep/full out/mini wars o from the past and try to mimic those who are vidding, those who do are usually very good warrers. Dutch, Iz jade iz etc etc. Once you understand the "theory" i suppose or more or less what to do then practice executing it in inners/preps

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We need to tweak app process maybe add an interview thing? This can entitle a number of different things and can help us assess people and the areas which they need help in...we can than work on their weaknesses directly which can help apps improve and in turn help us win wars... this should be a job for elite/council?

elite+ should also be responsible for leading weekday pk trips. Helps community and helps members practice things like spamming/tanking/food combos etc.

keep ideas flowing
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hate it when i see exp+ using ancient staffs mith gloves and climb boots.

and zam books
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Nov 18 2010, 01:13 AM
hate it when i see exp+ using ancient staffs mith gloves and climb boots.

and zam books

some kids are poor and can barely afford a return tab. Rather them have that then maxed gear for clan wars.

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Hmm tank tests in wild maybe :p
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Nov 18 2010, 01:10 AM
We need to tweak app process maybe add an interview thing? This can entitle a number of different things and can help us assess people and the areas which they need help in...we can than work on their weaknesses directly which can help apps improve and in turn help us win wars... this should be a job for elite/council?

elite+ should also be responsible for leading weekday pk trips. Helps community and helps members practice things like spamming/tanking/food combos etc.

keep ideas flowing

i like where your head's at with the interview thing, but how exactly would you play that out. are you thinking like... an actual live interview type deal on irc or something? let em into #nectarded and throw some random questions at em? get to know em a bit too?... or....... ?

as for brice's topic in the first place, i like where your head's at too, but why fix something if it's not broke? i know we have an assload of newer members that're getting dropped in .5, i know they need practice, and i made a post a couple weeks ago about this too, but our methods in the past have always been pretty straight forward and they've always seemed to work, virtus is an example.

miniwars, 2v2 or 3v3 tournies, brid dm's, preps, inners, tank tests, they all work, and with some time those members will be monsters in the future, maybe even the near future. i like that you're trying to think outside of the box for some new ways to get em prep'd up, but our old ways and shit have yet to fail us. i think all we need is just a little more focus on that area if anything, not to go in a completely new direction. just gotta emphasize the importance of tanking, bridding and getting better, as well as make our standards well known to the newer members that're just joining. throwing some events like tournies and inners help alot too, gives em something to shoot for, to show thier clanmates that they arent pushovers, cuz i know being the new guy you always wanna impress. just gives em initiative

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more inners/minis n shit, maybe add inners or something right after a pk trip so new kids that dont know how to keep track of events like that can come, since theyll be more free on the weekends prob
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TBH...

First step...

Stop accepting shit kids...Why wait till they are accepted before we have this problem, test them and have them prove they are good enough to be in TLP. Don't accept them, then test this out...We always seem to be butt hurt over apps and our ML size...use FOE as an example, booty clap MM almost 40 members down...Why must we have a large ML.

Srsly cut the shit kids and keep the best, who cares if we have a 90 man ML, we will know our 90 ml is the crim and crop of pure world...

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Totally agree with Dissy, we should bring back the recruiter rank, add two-three people and interview them, if accepted, also have them as their personal mentor too
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mentoring system. id be happy to make 3 or 4 virtus Jrs >=)


actually though id be willing to take 3-5 members and form a little squad and do things like 2v2s and pk and teach em what i know.

make everyone get Mics.
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mentor system wouldn't be bad at all

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Nov 17 2010, 07:59 PM
mentoring system. id be happy to make 3 or 4 virtus Jrs >=)


actually though id be willing to take 3-5 members and form a little squad and do things like 2v2s and pk and teach em what i know.

make everyone get Mics.

we will raise our little minions into deamons from hell. <3
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Just do it lol. Why are you all repeating yourselfs! If you're serious then take it to PM w/ Cory or whoever runs this bitch =D
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i like the combo of app interview->mentor system.
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Nov 17 2010, 10:44 PM
i like the combo of app interview->mentor system.

I know I'm just a genius

But really, when I was main clanning for a solid 5 years, every clan had the mentor system. Consisted of 2-3, nice, well-put members who are willingly enough to help new members and would last for like 3 weeks.
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If we want to have quality > quantity and to stick by that motto it has to start with the application process.

-Interviews about experience and build on what they know (what dissy said)
-Multiple REALISTIC tank tests/inners
-Practice, practice, practice!

When I first joined I had literally NEVER mini'd just watched vids before. But I joined TTC and I was forced into learning. Tank test across plat, put them in mini's, throw them into the fight. It's the only way to learn. I had Scott/Dan/Dissy all to learn from and it worked. The mentor thing is great.

Honestly if we have to, trim the ml. If they don't progress from the inners/help from other higher ranked members they get the boot.
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We should reemphasize the need of warring (as shimmy has put) and kind of make TO a "must"
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