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Event: Classic Golden Age
Topic Started: Jun 17 2014, 07:56 PM (1,508 Views)
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I've already got like three or four totally different New Gods lists taking shape and they're all completely terrible. This is going to be the greatest tournament in VS System history.
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Jun 18 2014, 07:18 AM
I've already got like three or four totally different New Gods lists taking shape and they're all completely terrible. This is going to be the greatest tournament in VS System history.
Haha. It just might be.
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Classic golden is gonna be great. Side event is looking fun enough to wanna 0-2 drop haha.
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Added a poll.. Twice -_-'

Please only use the top poll and if you know how to remove the bottom one that would be great info to pass this way ^_^
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This is distinctly lacking in the "Foil play-set of every New Gods card" department. I mean really... Shouldn't that be the prize for the side event?
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Jun 18 2014, 07:15 PM
This is distinctly lacking in the "Foil play-set of every New Gods card" department. I mean really... Shouldn't that be the prize for the side event?
That would be awesome.

One more question about the side event. Someone earlier asked about legends cards. While no New Gods characters got legends cards, there are cards like Mjolnir. Can we use that turn someone into Thor then use his Legend cards?
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Jun 18 2014, 07:35 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 07:15 PM
This is distinctly lacking in the "Foil play-set of every New Gods card" department. I mean really... Shouldn't that be the prize for the side event?
That would be awesome.

One more question about the side event. Someone earlier asked about legends cards. While no New Gods characters got legends cards, there are cards like Mjolnir. Can we use that turn someone into Thor then use his Legend cards?
If it's doesn't reference a printed new gods character then no.
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Jun 18 2014, 07:15 PM
This is distinctly lacking in the "Foil play-set of every New Gods card" department. I mean really... Shouldn't that be the prize for the side event?
Got one to donate o_O ^_^
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Jun 18 2014, 08:41 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 07:35 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 07:15 PM
This is distinctly lacking in the "Foil play-set of every New Gods card" department. I mean really... Shouldn't that be the prize for the side event?
That would be awesome.

One more question about the side event. Someone earlier asked about legends cards. While no New Gods characters got legends cards, there are cards like Mjolnir. Can we use that turn someone into Thor then use his Legend cards?
If it's doesn't reference a printed new gods character then no.
The only Thor legend card is The Reckoning which makes no reference to team affiliation and is playable without having Thor. If you can't play that there's no reason you should be able to play Fate Has Spoken. A New God character can become Thor via Mjolnir or Fate via the Helm. There's no reason these cards shouldn't be allowed.

Nah I don't have a foil playset of New Gods cards. If I did I would definitely donate it in exchange for non-foil versions of the rares. You're the one with the connections Tim get the word out!
Edited by OMB, Jun 18 2014, 08:57 PM.
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Jun 18 2014, 08:56 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 08:41 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 07:35 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 07:15 PM
This is distinctly lacking in the "Foil play-set of every New Gods card" department. I mean really... Shouldn't that be the prize for the side event?
That would be awesome.

One more question about the side event. Someone earlier asked about legends cards. While no New Gods characters got legends cards, there are cards like Mjolnir. Can we use that turn someone into Thor then use his Legend cards?
If it's doesn't reference a printed new gods character then no.
The only Thor legend card is The Reckoning which makes no reference to team affiliation and is playable without having Thor. If you can't play that there's no reason you should be able to play Fate Has Spoken. A New God character can become Thor via Mjolnir or Fate via the Helm. There's no reason these cards shouldn't be allowed.

Nah I don't have a foil playset of New Gods cards. If I did I would definitely donate it in exchange for non-foil versions of the rares. You're the one with the connections Tim get the word out!
It literally can't reference anyone except a new gods character. So all the cards you're mentioning are unplayable in that case. Even if they're playable without said team or character. So no hammers or helms or any other card that in the text box references another character that isn't new gods.

It's bring you own new gods and I want it to stay heavily new gods related lol
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Why was this not brought up when the Fate Arifacts were first mentioned yesterday?

Either of the scenarios I mentioned are more proactive and fun than dealing with all the generic hate cards from the later sets (PA crushes Scott Free) and still far within the spirit of featuring and supporting the New Gods team. It's starting to feel arbitrary which generics are allowed and which aren't.

EDIT: No, I can't believe this is a conversation that is seriously happening either... [duh]
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I'm fine with whatever but if this is the way it's going to be it certainly needs to be made 100% clear.

The Helm of Nabu as well as all of the Flash "legend" cards reference identities and not named characters. This is a different thing than what you have currently listed as being forbidden and when referring to a Bring Your Own Legend type event these card types need to be explicitly stated/added as playable options along with stuff like Hawkman, Hawkwoman, etc. If we're going to exclude such things from this format the same does need to be explicitly done here is all.

Currently the way the format is listed "Fate Has Spoken" is a no go because the text of Fate Has Spoken explicitly lists "name or identity". But the Helm only gives the identity Dr.Fate and not the name so that would still be allowed in theory.

Honestly I think pretty much the only card of this type that would still be truly usable is the Helm since all of the Flash stuff could be included in a deck but could never actually be played but it does make a difference.
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Thats literally what I was trying to clear up yesterday lol
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True generics or go home. I get that letting that stuff in makes more options, but it also diminishes the format IMO. From the opening post,

"- all plot twists, locations, and equipment must EITHER reference new gods, a new gods printed character, or no character/team at all."
Edited by SuperAzn, Jun 18 2014, 10:31 PM.
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Again that wording still lets through identity. Identity =/= character or team.

If you want Helm of Nabu not in the format as well then the wording needs to be more along the lines of...

"- all plot twists, locations, and equipment must EITHER reference the new gods team affiliation, a new gods affiliated character or identity, or no character, identity, or team affiliation at all."

Otherwise you have not "banned" Helm of Nabu. Which is perfectly fine since almost all of its "brokenness" is gone without Fate Has Spoken being allowed but as I stated one really needs to be entirely clear on this.
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