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Event: Classic Golden Age
Topic Started: Jun 17 2014, 07:56 PM (1,507 Views)
RavenPro
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It's basically the same thing. The helm references dr. Fate. The name or rebid identity doesn't matter. No new gods characters have that name or identity.
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Back to the drawing board lol
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RavenPro
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It makes perfect sense to me. The cloak and amulet are legal because it doesn't mention any other team or character. The helm mentions another character so it can't be used.
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Its cool im sure I wasnt the only one thinking bout fate suit on fastbak, fate has spoken... get 3 attacks just him only nd super town get the cosmic back lol oh wells
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RavenPro
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Honestly it's probably better. 90% of the people would of ran that.
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TheCapedCrusader
Jun 19 2014, 12:06 AM
Its cool im sure I wasnt the only one thinking bout fate suit on fastbak, fate has spoken... get 3 attacks just him only nd super town get the cosmic back lol oh wells
Exactly why we're not playing with all of those cards. It's a terrible new gods decks all your cards must be generic as f**k or unbelievably suck. No abusing cards that have no business in a new gods base deck.
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Jun 18 2014, 10:29 PM
True generics or go home. I get that letting that stuff in makes more options, but it also diminishes the format IMO.
You know what not only diminishes the format, but also makes less options? MCG. Show me the New God character with cost 6 or more that isn't rendered blank or worse by PA and Omni.

A Mr. Miracle stall build is basically unplayable with PA in the format. You want to try and play Infinity Man early? Hope your opponent doesn't call him with an Omni. Saying stuff like "you can just run The Source and your own Omni" is akin to saying "you can't tutor any of it, but maybe you can actually play your deck if you happen to draw the hate to their hate".

It's not a secret; New Gods blow. They are almost certainly the worst full team in the game and that's why this tournament is a thing. If the idea is for them to shine why allow OP cards that totally hose half the characters in the format?

Is a Fated up Fastbak swinging 3 times in a turn pretty good? Yeah it is, but at least it's still Fastbak focused. How about Mark Moonrider holding a Mjolnir using the Reckoning to burn you for X+2 then re-readying and using his cosmic to burn you for 7 (5 for effect 2 for Mjolnir) that's a lot of moving parts, but Mark Moonrider is still doing a lot of the heavy lifting. The MCG cards have absolutely no relation to the New Gods other than making them even worse. I'd be way more interested in seeing one of those off the wall decks crush someone than a single hate card.

#FreeMrMiracle
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Agreed!
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RavenPro
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I don't care either way about the fate suit ans Thor but he makes a good point about omni and pa ruining the format.
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We could just ban MCG if people want more new gods nonsense not getting countered. Personally, I don't think they're that broke, omni is obvious source bait and PA has very few new god related effects to prevent outside of source and some burn damage. But my ears are open.
Edited by SuperAzn, Jun 19 2014, 08:12 AM.
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For the side tourny I dont think MCG should be allowed. ... nd is it just but I liked the bring your own 3 golden decks for the main event, the bring your own golden (no modern art cards) idk im not liking it too much... but its your tourny I with whatever
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I'm for banning MCG as well. I think if you toss MCG you probably want to just put the regular ban list back into effect too.

Just like you mention you are trying to keep things a bit more New God centric by not allowing some of that "legend" stuff I definitely feel like allowing overload could cause a similar problem. SNO as a strategy has nothing to do with New Gods and is more likely to then be a problem without PA in the format, yes New Gods has some things to stop it and there is still some generic hate too but 3 drop Big Bear is basically overloadable the moment he hits the field.

But really what it comes down to is if even some decks are going to be packing...

4x Omnipotence
4x Pathetic Attempt
4x Overload

That's going to make for an awkward tournament experience and as OMB said it really just comes down to matches of who has and draws their hate for my hate or "counters".
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I think if were sooo no legends, identity or what may have you, were gonna see the same new gods deck throughout the side event, they dont have many characters and def dont have many team staples cards, the less restrictions on it we might see some amazing variations nd diversity
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I mean I can live without using the fate set so I dont wanna make it seem like im just begging for it.... but lifting the restrictions alil will create some thinking outside the box and creativity
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