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VS System 2PCG info released
Topic Started: May 27 2015, 12:20 AM (25,980 Views)
xMr. Lemon Headx
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x_chan
Jul 23 2015, 01:25 AM
bortrea
Jul 22 2015, 06:53 PM
Attacks happen one at a time. And as you can see the team attack you questioned being confusing is not a problem. The attack happens before the stun back.
Not exactly what I meant. I understand how stun back would work in that case, but what happens to team attacks when I stun the character that has the team up keyword with stuff like -1/-1 counters outside combat stuns? Is it cancelled or it goes through? If it goes through, are other stuff going to trigger or is stopped (like stat boosts for team affiliated characters)? Since there's no chain anymore, how is everything going to be resolved? Or what happens if while team attacked a character with ferocious stuns back the team up character first? Are boost stats carried over or will the teamates lose them?
Maybe just wait and read the rulebook? I don't know, just a thought.....
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Damn the sky is falling. The sky is falling!

Oops. I guess it isn't. Sorry.

I'm gunna go with xMr. Lemon Headx on this one...

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Maybe just wait and read the rulebook? I don't know, just a thought

There's just too many skies falling to address them all.

So I guess we'll just have to wait and see. The proof is always in the pudding.

People are intitled to believe what the will and when and where they please. I respect that. As for me, I'm looking forward to playing this new game.
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Jul 23 2015, 01:29 AM
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Jul 23 2015, 01:25 AM
bortrea
Jul 22 2015, 06:53 PM
Attacks happen one at a time. And as you can see the team attack you questioned being confusing is not a problem. The attack happens before the stun back.
Not exactly what I meant. I understand how stun back would work in that case, but what happens to team attacks when I stun the character that has the team up keyword with stuff like -1/-1 counters outside combat stuns? Is it cancelled or it goes through? If it goes through, are other stuff going to trigger or is stopped (like stat boosts for team affiliated characters)? Since there's no chain anymore, how is everything going to be resolved? Or what happens if while team attacked a character with ferocious stuns back the team up character first? Are boost stats carried over or will the teamates lose them?
Maybe just wait and read the rulebook? I don't know, just a thought.....
At this point you're pretty much just popping by to antagonize people, huh?

I think we all get that you're frustrated with "the hate" but your recent comments really aren't any more constructive.
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Jul 23 2015, 03:44 AM
I think we all get that you're frustrated with "the hate" but your recent comments really aren't any more constructive.
I'm confused. Did I miss something here. Or did I get pulled into something without knowing it.
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Jul 23 2015, 01:25 AM
Not exactly what I meant. I understand how stun back would work in that case, but what happens to team attacks when I stun the character that has the team up keyword with stuff like -1/-1 counters outside combat stuns? Is it cancelled or it goes through?
Since so far you can only do the -1/-1 outside of combat, you would not have been able to declare the team attack.

I assume that even if there were "during combat" stuns (either via -X DEF or effects) you would have to do it before the player announces his attack since there is no chain. If I say I team attack, you don't have a chance to respond and if there is a during combat stun, the team attack has already gone through so you can't stop it.
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If it goes through, are other stuff going to trigger or is stopped (like stat boosts for team affiliated characters)? Since there's no chain anymore, how is everything going to be resolved? Or what happens if while team attacked a character with ferocious stuns back the team up character first? Are boost stats carried over or will the teamates lose them?

Again, no chain, so anything that give "attackers" a boost are applied as soon as you declare them as attackers. I'm not sure which card you are referring to that has a static effect based on team affiliation while attacking so maybe I need to see the card text.

I think it will be easier to understand once you start playing but there will probably be some broken interaction that will have to be errata'd.
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Jul 23 2015, 04:13 AM
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Jul 23 2015, 03:44 AM
I think we all get that you're frustrated with "the hate" but your recent comments really aren't any more constructive.
I'm confused. Did I miss something here. Or did I get pulled into something without knowing it.
Nah it was directed at Lemon. I find several of his recent comments to be bordering on belittling.
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Haha. I am not the one that has done the belittling. Seriously though, someone asks several ruling questions before the rulebook has been released? You have to put wheels on the car before you can drive it...
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@x_chan:

Oh and I'm pretty sure that once you say 'Combat', your opponent cannot play an effect until you play yours first... that's actually the simplicity of no chain/stack... you truly have priority.
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https://www.facebook.com/VsSystem2PCG/photos/a.782119235229276.1073741828.762608663847000/797186143722585/?type=1&theater

I can't figure out how to insert the image in the post so here's the link. I'm not sure how much you can get off her ability but Ms. Marvel seems pretty good. Avengers as a whole are looking like a really good team.
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I like her. Not sure if I prefer to run her with Iron Man or cap though.
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Ms. Marvel seems a little weak seeing as how counters are wiped when the character gets stunned.
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Don't get stunned then silly! Think again should help, as should other ways to gain counters.
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I see Ms Marvel working best with Iron Man.

I like how easily the energy mechanic along with main characters creates different deck configurations within a single team. There's bit more depth here than mono-team decks just aiming towards a main theme, sub-theme (if there is one), or legend (if there is one).
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Jul 24 2015, 03:31 AM
Ms. Marvel seems a little weak seeing as how counters are wiped when the character gets stunned.
Good thing Avengers have that plot twist. ;)
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Jul 24 2015, 03:31 AM
Ms. Marvel seems a little weak seeing as how counters are wiped when the character gets stunned.
Good thing Avengers have that plot twist. ;)
This is very true. The access to simply halting combat that the Avengers has is indeed quite strong.
Edited by KardKrazy, Jul 24 2015, 01:56 PM.
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