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VS System 2PCG info released
Topic Started: May 27 2015, 12:20 AM (25,975 Views)
plaid_warlock
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Same here. A good chunk of the reason I got into this game was because of the superheroes. I don't really plan on buying anything related to their other properties.
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Jul 30 2015, 04:43 AM
Based on what? The most popular games in this genre have zero to do with superheroes, so a blanket statement like "once they do anything outside of superheroes people will stop buying" just looks silly.
I'm just basing it off my personal preference and what I've heard my friends state. That's all man. So in my world (and apparently others as you can see) it isn't "silly". It's just how we feel. But on that same note as roguesaw stated...Legendary and other games do just fine and I wouldn't give those games a dime of my money.
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The Vs. Realms Facebook is posting photos of a bunch of cards. I think some folks are going to be pleasantly surprised.
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Jul 30 2015, 02:58 PM
The Vs. Realms Facebook is posting photos of a bunch of cards. I think some folks are going to be pleasantly surprised.
I can't find the page, but unless the last 20 cards of the set are OVS cards for us to enjoy, I don't know how pleasantly surprised I'll be...
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Well with that attitude, I shouldn't even show you! :P

https://www.facebook.com/vsrealms?pnref=lhc

What I meant was, it's not all counter pumps. Plenty of other strategic decisions.
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I have heard that UDE already sold out of all their Vs Product today. Hopefully this is just today's limit and not all their stock. Because if I drive all the way to Indy to play in a tournament and can't get a set tomorrow I am going to lose my shit as the saying goes :P.

P.S: Deadpool's Level 2 Main Character is quite confusing. Unless I win the game by attacking the Player I'm not seeing much use for him other than he's just funny and very flavorful.
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Thanks Dog!

So Mantis is even a better resource acceleratior than Fury's? And she can be splashed into any team? I don't really get how this will be played out. The best part of it is that she is going to be a great protector, as your opponent will not want to stun her.

The more I see of this game, the less I understand it.
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And it looks like we have Army characters (of a sort) Ultron has Swarm: You can have any number of this character on your side. This power can't be turned off.
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Jul 30 2015, 05:10 PM
And it looks like we have Army characters (of a sort) Ultron has Swarm: You can have any number of this character on your side. This power can't be turned off.
4 of in a deck rule still applies to him though. So not exactly an army character, just a non-unique one.
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Good point.
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Can Godslayer Sworda (Gamora's L2 superpower) act as an autowin condition?
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Jul 30 2015, 05:38 PM
Can Godslayer Sworda (Gamora's L2 superpower) act as an autowin condition?
With the way she is currently worded. Yes she can. I imagine that is why her ability is so costly.

Of course if Deadpool is a auto-win he would appear easier to use.
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Deadpool is not, as it mentions the player acts as a SC, so the winning conditions can be met. I honestly don't know how that would be worth the energy unless there's some level up condition or plot twist that benefits from the number of attacks, team attacks or stuns you can do. And not even then it will be worth it.

Too many reused art makes me sad also. Not only the MC and SC versions are the same, but some characters use the same art as OVS cards. How can they be so lazy to not even try to find new art?

Also, Hope Summers has the potential to be broken. She can act as 8xcopies of any character you have, but most importantly, she gets all of them at once. So I'm praying that the X-Men team up character is a low drop because the abuse with characters like Iceman, Cosmo, Ant-man and Mantis can be a real pain. She can even become non-unique with characters like Ultron. If they ever release a Multipleman character with low cost and the non-unique keyword she can go totally bonkers...

Imagine 4x Hope Summers that forces you to lose an attack thanks to Ant-man (or an X-men with that keyword), remove 4xenemy text box and can't be bypassed thanks to somebody's Grab keyword.... Insane stalling tactics...

If only there was an X-Men MC character with something similar to Godslayer's Sword but with a different level up condition....

Also, can she be recruited from the KO'd pile if there's a Deadpool around?
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Jul 30 2015, 06:16 PM
Deadpool is not, as it mentions the player acts as a SC, so the winning conditions can be met. I honestly don't know how that would be worth the energy unless there's some level up condition or plot twist that benefits from the number of attacks, team attacks or stuns you can do. And not even then it will be worth it.

Too many reused art makes me sad also. Not only the MC and SC versions are the same, but some characters use the same art as OVS cards. How can they be so lazy to not even try to find new art?

Also, Hope Summers has the potential to be broken. She can act as 8xcopies of any character you have, but most importantly, she gets all of them at once. So I'm praying that the X-Men team up character is a low drop because the abuse with characters like Iceman, Cosmo, Ant-man and Mantis can be a real pain. She can even become non-unique with characters like Ultron. If they ever release a Multipleman character with low cost and the non-unique keyword she can go totally bonkers...

Imagine 4x Hope Summers that forces you to lose an attack thanks to Ant-man (or an X-men with that keyword), remove 4xenemy text box and can't be bypassed thanks to somebody's Grab keyword.... Insane stalling tactics...

If only there was an X-Men MC character with something similar to Godslayer's Sword but with a different level up condition....

Also, can she be recruited from the KO'd pile if there's a Deadpool around?
According to a comment on the Facebook page, Deadpool is a auto-win. I have no idea how accurate that person's information is but it would kind of make sense. Since if you technically kill the opposing player there would be no one to play. However, if they do in fact intend Deadpool to be a auto-win they should have written his card out to state that opposing players are considered "main characters", not "support characters".

Also, Deadpool's Support Character version only allows him to be recruited from the KO pile. Not other characters.

P.S: I agree about Hope Summers...that is one slippery slope of a card. I think it is a mistake of design to design something like that. It reminds me of such cards as 3-Drop Dr. Light. One card that made it where you had to triple check a 0, 1, or 2 card's effect every single time you designed one just to make sure one particular card couldn't break it. Except for in Hope's case...there is no cost restriction.

EDIT: I see what you are asking about now with Deadpool and Hope. I think the way she is worded would in fact allow that since she even gains "appear" abilities.
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Jul 30 2015, 06:29 PM
According to a comment on the Facebook page, Deadpool is a auto-win. I have no idea how accurate that person's information is but it would kind of make sense. Since if you technically kill the opposing player there would be no one to play. However, if they do in fact intend Deadpool to be a auto-win they should have written his card out to state that opposing players are considered "main characters", not "support characters".

Also, Deadpool's Support Character version only allows him to be recruited from the KO pile. Not other characters.
I mean can KO'd pile Hope copy his powers? She can copy "appear" powers, which makes me think her power is active outside the board, so I don't know if her power could work also from the KO'd pile.

Not that really matters. There's enough level 1-2 drops with permanent powers to abuse from. Iceman, Black Widow, Ant-man, Cosmo, Mantis, Deadpool. Even Dock Oct could get a place in the deck. A 3 cost drop that would allow Hope to gain Genius and Grab? Seems to good to pass... Only missing is a swarm low cost drop to make it work and the X-men team up.

And regarding Deadpool, if that's the case, then I have found my wanted MC! Now to see who has the team-up keyword for the X-Men.

Too bad both Gamora and Deadpool level up condition + superpower win condition requires you to stun the enemy 4 times at least. It's hard to see them as alternate conditions when MC has an average of 5 health....

But they could be handy in multiplayer matches.

Edit: Scratch all that. If her power can trigger Deadpool's power, she needs to be reworked. Having him, Iron man 6 drop (or someone with Inventive keyword, preferably X-Men), Iceman, a green location or wild location on your resource row and 2 Hope Summers in the KO'd pile means the enemy board is permanently exhausted. Add in Black Widow and you can also stun all of them, including the MC, with her Sting power. I hope the FAQ addresses that, because like you say, any future card will have to be designed with Hope in mind...
Edited by x_chan, Jul 30 2015, 07:17 PM.
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