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VS 2PCG $10k Thread; Predict and discuss the meta
Topic Started: Jul 30 2015, 10:21 PM (3,274 Views)
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plaid_warlock
Aug 1 2015, 02:25 AM
They sold out of product in an hour on the first day, most likely because they underestimated the amount they could move. To make absolutely sure that didn't happen again the second day, they cancelled all the win-a-box tournaments and used the boxes to help overstock the shelves at the booth. Does it suck for people who wanted to win their boxes? Sure but honestly I would rather pay $50 and get the box in my hands than pay $8 for the possibility of getting one. That's just me though.
I know that, but it's exactly my problem. They already charges people for the Win a Box tournament, so they knew how many boxes were needed to keep the tournament going. Couldn't they had set aside those for them?

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The FAQ verifies that Deadpool is an auto-win but the metagame breakdown says there are only 3 of him and 0 Gamora.


They can have autowin conditions, but they require you to stun the opponent MC at least 4 times. So it's hard to see them as alternate win conditions when you still need to fight them the regular way.

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Most played decks are Starlord and Thanos.


Those are MCs, not decks. I hope they reveal the deck lists later on, as the MC aren't deckbuilder characters.
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i wouldn't really classify it as "auto-win" but more like "alternate win". Auto-win makes it sound really easy to do when it's really not.
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Aug 1 2015, 07:16 PM
The FAQ verifies that Deadpool is an auto-win but the metagame breakdown says there are only 3 of him and 0 Gamora.

Most played decks are Starlord and Thanos.
Saw that and after reading the report Thanos is soooo good. Starlord is good but I think people overestimated him and just used him to ramp. Magneto had a far larger showing than I thought and Storm got second so she is as good as I thought.
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Michael Barnes Storm Aggro vs Sal D'Agostino Starlord Ramp final.

Interesting as it looks like they did 1-game match in the top 8 too.

I would spoil which deck won, but I'll let you guys read the coverage to at least give them some views for their $10k coverage work.
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Lol, I keep refreshing the homepage over there at VS HQ and waiting to see the decklists for top 8. As much fun as the game is, I really don't like the little to no encouragement to stay with one team. Hopefully things will go more in that direction with future releases.
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Aug 2 2015, 01:49 AM
Thanos is soooo good.
He might be the best MC in the game right now. He is one of the few characters with 6 health and has an excellent power that increases both his attack and defense, making him bigger and harder to stun. That's all that really matters right now. Also, his level up requirement is hard to bypass.

Thankfully, he has a counter in the form of Dr. Strange.

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As much fun as the game is, I really don't like the little to no encouragement to stay with one team. Hopefully things will go more in that direction with future releases.


That is something I'm really surprised on. They restricted team ups because discouraged mono teams, but the new game is less team driven than before. With the removal of reinforcement, and the lack of loyalty like restrictions to powers (only Hope has one that I can think of). Spamming characters is so revarding that I'm affraid we might end up with 2-3 deck that work no matter who the MC is. Even team stamped Plot Twists are so easy to spam that there's little to no reason to stay mono for the most part.

I guess their aim is to make the game like Magic, were colors are the real deckbuilding focus and not the teams. Although, unlike Magic, color based powers are optional.
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The biggest problem I see with this game in tournament play is homogeny. The entire top 8 was just Thanos decks and Starlord decks with a single rogue Storm deck right?

Right now there are only 16 MCs and a one big tourney so the meta is far from established but as the game expands more I'd love to see something adopted to encourage more diverse fields.
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As I read it from the live coverage 1 of the Starlord decks in the top 8 should've been a Magneto. But the magneto player conceded his round 9 win?

Would've made for more diversity (except for the 50% Thanos decks).
Also statisticly Starlord didn't do as well as he seems now. From metagame breakdown to top 8, with "only 2(3)" making top 8 from the most represented MC.

Or is that just me?
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Were all the Thanos decks similar? The top 8 decklists show a good variation among the decks.
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That's true indeed, but im afraid that the MC of a deck seems to decide the playstyle of the deck (and in a way will eventually lead to an ideal list for said playstyle given more time/testing).

But hey metagame is metagame and if character/deck A gets too popular theres always a counter.
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I don't think it's any different than when OVS first came out. It was dominated by Brotherhood until the meta adjusted and new sets came out.

I'm just wondering how long it will be until the first expansion.
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from what Ive read/heard the first "expansion" will be in Januari with 200 cards and 2 teams (supposidly still Marvel).

Quote: Steven Strange on VS 2PGC Collective FB-page. (info from Roll for Crit)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6GScyMXELI
some vs news from gencon 2015. these guys in the video were at a upperdeck q&a with jason brenner. the part starts at around 23:25 in the video. for vs they say the following:
- each cycle goes from gencon to gencon.
- each cycle contains a big box core set and 2 expansions.
- first expansion in january. 200 cards, 2 new teams.
- each cycle will be a new property. that means 3 marvel sets, done. 3 alien sets, done. not sure if this is true tbh.
thats it. can anyone confirm this?
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Aug 2 2015, 01:49 AM
Thanos is soooo good.
He might be the best MC in the game right now. He is one of the few characters with 6 health ...
Thanos MC is a 3/4...
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Aug 2 2015, 01:49 AM
Thanos is soooo good.
He might be the best MC in the game right now. He is one of the few characters with 6 health ...
Thanos MC is a 3/4...
L1 Thanos has 3 attack, 4 defense, and 6 health.
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Aug 2 2015, 11:14 PM
from what Ive read/heard the first "expansion" will be in Januari with 200 cards and 2 teams (supposidly still Marvel).

Quote: Steven Strange on VS 2PGC Collective FB-page. (info from Roll for Crit)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6GScyMXELI
some vs news from gencon 2015. these guys in the video were at a upperdeck q&a with jason brenner. the part starts at around 23:25 in the video. for vs they say the following:
- each cycle goes from gencon to gencon.
- each cycle contains a big box core set and 2 expansions.
- first expansion in january. 200 cards, 2 new teams.
- each cycle will be a new property. that means 3 marvel sets, done. 3 alien sets, done. not sure if this is true tbh.
thats it. can anyone confirm this?
My only gripe is that we wait until January for the expansion. Feels very late. Means we must be getting the second one before Gen con because, from what I gathered, Gen Con is where the new cycle will begin with the new property. So we wait 5 months for the first expac and then I guess another 5? Ah well, I am just glad we are getting new sets!
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