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** final list ** 100 Ideas: MKKO (MVL MUN)
Topic Started: Feb 28 2009, 01:07 PM (2,365 Views)
Bliven731
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2x Black Cat (1)
2x Black Panther (Maybe Black Widow but I see a bunch of decks missing their 1 drop)
2x Punisher (2)
2x Daredevil (2)
2x Blade (3)
1x Ghost Rider (3)
2x Wolverine (4)
1x Vengence (5)
1x Punisher, Captain America (5)
1x Ghost Rider

2x Wild Ride
2x Savage Beatdown
2x Quick Kill
2x Finishing Move
2x Devastating Blow
2x Flying Kick

Not sure what to use for the last 2 cards. I would use Hunte's Castle for 1, but it's Hellboy. Maybe just toss in Black Widow x2? or Maybe 1 Black Widow and 1 more Ghost Rider 3? Or maybe just 2 mobilizes?
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scottkthompson
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MKKO does not have to be limited to two sets. If you want to take stuff from the MMk set, that's fine!

I only alotted one slot for MKKO in my list of 100.

If you need to see the list:

http://vssystem.org/2009/02/15/the-100-ideas-unnatural-selection/
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With my last post in mind...

Swan Dive and Crime and Punishment are totally awesome cards.

Maybe C&P could replace Savage Beatdown; War Wagons or Judge, Jury, and Executioner could replace Finishing move; and Swan Dive over Devastating Blow.

Not sure about the last one, but you get the idea. What do you think?
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I think you should have C&P replace Devastating Blow, and use 1x War Wagons and 1x Judge, Jury, and Executioner instead of finishing move. Leave out swan dive and keep Savage Beatdown. MKKO has to win quickly or it loses, because the deck doesn't have a single visible character until 5.
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I'm sold!
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I like this decklist, but I would do a couple of changes.

Yes it's true a lot of decks miss or don't play one drops but against Winnie and Rush Black Widow is a much better choice than Black Panther. So I would go with her.

Running Black Widow on 1 also lets us play Black Panther on 3 instead of Ghost Rider. Running Black Panther on 3 gives us the possibility of having a visible 3 drop in play which is good cause waiting till turn 5 might not be that good of an idea. He also provides the possibility of playing either War Wagon which I don't really like because there is no other visible character, or the even better Mindtap Mechanism.

I would cut Vengeance and actually play 2 Punishers on the 5th. Can't risk missing the visible 5 drop.

I'm still debating on whether Wolverine is better in the deck than Luke Cage. Sure Luke Cage has to pay one extra endurance to attack the concealed area but that extra draw he provides is perfect for the deck. I'm leaning towards Luke Cage since we have Blade on 3 that can also attack the concealed area.

Devastating Blow can easily be replaced with Crime and Punishment. Same cost extra +1 ATK and its a team stamped card so it's more thematic.

Last two cards should be either Hunte Castle or Styker's Island. If not then go with a little DEF and play Dark Alley to avoid stunbacks.

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Vengeance IS Visible, and his burn helps the deck even on off initiative. I think he's a strong turn five play. It's also just kind of cool to play him and Ghost Rider.

I like Luke Cage as well. It probably makes more sense to include him so that Wolverine isn't in so many decks. Wolverine and Savage Beatdown appear in faaaaaar too many lists!

I also agree that JJE should be used over War Wagon; and C & P over Devastating Blow.
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On my list we have MKKO and Spirits of Vengeance. This can be the Spirits of Vengeance build (Ghost Rider focus).

We can do a Daredevil/Punisher focus for the other deck. How does that sound?
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With that in mind I think Ghost Rider should be the primary three drop with Blade as backup. Besides, there aren't too many hidden decks in the 100 Ideas.
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It's not only the benefit of being able to attack the concealed with Blade but to send opposing drops to the concealed so that you have an easier way to hit big breakthrough and mess up formations.

I still think Black Widow is a superior drop to Black Panther so I play her over him. You could go 1 and 1 on them if you like.

I don't see any other MKKO deck other than this one so adding cards from MMK is not going to be a problem.

I would go:

2x Black Cat, Thrillseeker
2x Black Widow, Femme Fatale
2x Punisher, Suicide Run
2x Daredevil, Fearless Survivor
2x Blade, Independent Contractor
1x Ghost Rider, The Devil's Rider
2x Luke Cage, Street Enforcer
1x Punisher, Captain America
1x Daredevil, Matt Murdock
1x Ghost Rider, Spirit of Vengeance

2x Wild Ride
2x Savage Beatdown
2x Quick Kill
2x Finishing Move
2x Crime and Punishment
2x Flying Kick

2x Hunte Castle (or Dark Alley if we choose not to play Hellboy cards)

I added the Daredevil on 5 because he is just to good not to play specially if we are stuck on odds.
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How about

Vengeance at 5, With him and Ghost Rider, Spirit of vengeance out you could ram him into what ever or even Swan Dive him after he takes out a three drop.
A nice burn of 10 is pretty sweet, especially when coupled with other effects.
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I'm also a fan of the Vengeance-ghost rider one-two punch!
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I guess you can do that. I just really like Daredevil, and his built in pump.
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I actually LOVE Daredevil. That five drop is my favorite incarnation of him. An 11/10 Five drop with flight is AWESOME!

Because of this I incorporated Daredevil into the Coalition of Heroes deck. It's essentially a curve of Daredevil and Spider-Man. You should go check it out and see if it's viable.
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I was actually trying to feature all the 'legend' marvel knights seperately. Daredevil in the Coalition of Heroes deck, Ghost Rider in MKKO, and Punisher in Sniper Shot. That was my logic anyway!
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