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**Final**100 Ideas Purifiers; You shall be cleansed
Topic Started: Apr 2 2009, 07:48 PM (2,404 Views)
scottkthompson
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You would think that William Stryker wouldn't work then right? He only pulls cards named The Purifiers, and she isn't named that; she only has that name in addition to many others.
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There is a big difference is SAME NAME and NAMED. The same name denotes only being able to search for a character with the exact name.





On a side note, you can return Katana(character) to get Katana(equipment) or return Mogo(character) to get Mogo(location) with Origin Story.
Edited by vs_savant2, Apr 27 2009, 04:43 PM.
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Sorry savant but you are wrong.

Again Uncertain Legacy says:
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Search your deck for a character card with the same name as a character you control, reveal it, and put it into your hand.

Origin Story says:
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To play, return a character you control to its owner's hand.
Search your deck for a card with the same name as that character, reveal it, and put it into your hand.

You can't use either of them to search for Mystique no matter what the situation. And you can't use any of them on Mystique to search for anything else than a Mystique. Why?

1) While she is in play she has only the name Mystique so they don't work for anything other than getting a Mystique. Even when bouncing her back to your hand(where she has all names) the game looks for the last possible info and that is when she was in play with her name of Mystique.

2) When she is in Hand, KO or DECk she has all names - so they don't work either because her exact name is all possible names.

William Stryker states:
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At the start of the combat phase, return target card named The Purifiers from your KO'd pile to your hand or to play.

Stryker just wants a card in the KO pile that has the name The Purifiers and Mystique fits the bill because she has that name (along with every other possible name).

If Stryker would of stated: "with the exact name The Purifiers", or "with the printed name The Purifiers" then Mystique would not be able to be recurred by his effect.

There aren't that many cards that state "share a name" but there are differences between sharing and having the same name.
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My bad, The top part of my statement was right the bottom was wrong.
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Not to worry. A lot of people have problems with the interactions of Mystique and search cards that look for specific names.
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So Enemy of my Enemy should probably go in?

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Thanks for the clarification! I'm not sure I get it 100% but I will take your word for it!
Edited by scottkthompson, Apr 29 2009, 03:12 AM.
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If you still need help understanding it I will be glad to provide as much help as needed.

Anyway if you look at my version of the deck I use Straight to the Grave. Because of the rules I don't think you'll allow for it so Enemy is not a bad replacement.
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8 Purifiers
2 Mystique - Raven
2 William Stryker
2 Lady Deathstrike
2 Nimrod
1 Bastion
1 Sentinel Squad O.N.E (Minimum 4 Purifiers in hand when he comes into play.)

2 Invasion Plans
2 Enemy of my Enemy
2 Identity Theft
2 Common Cause
2 ATTACK PUMP OF SOME SORT?
1 Purified

1 Stryker's Island
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Do we want the attack pump to be Combat Protocols, or do we want a pump that can target more of our characters (ie Nimrod, Bastion, etc.)?

Edit: I know Stryker's Island is DC, but the kids will think it's William Stryker's island from the Wolverine movie, so I'm not considering it a rule break.
Edited by scottkthompson, May 22 2009, 03:50 AM.
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Pumps:
Forward Assault
Agents of Hate
Outmatched
or good 'ol Savage Beatdown

Graduating Class offers reinforcement while bouncing a Purifier back to hand.

Only Human is incredibally thematic for a team out to purify mutantkind

I'm sure I'm missing some other good ones...
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May 22 2009, 03:48 AM
Do we want the attack pump to be Combat Protocols, or do we want a pump that can target more of our characters (ie Nimrod, Bastion, etc.)?
eerrrrrr....

Combat Protocol
 
Choose an affiliation. Army Sentinel characters you control get +2 ATK while attacking a character with the chosen affiliation this turn.

Purifiers are not Sentinels and the other characters that are Sentinels are not Army characters.


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But they've got a Common Cause. Pardon the pun!
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I'm for savage beatdown for the ATT pump
Edited by Gambit07, May 22 2009, 06:51 PM.
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Cutting loose might not be too shabby
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Are we still using the deck on the first post or has it evolved to include Mystique? I ask cause I don't see any updates on the first deck.
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