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Samantha Parrington Question?; Does this work.
Topic Started: Sep 22 2009, 03:23 PM (728 Views)
vs_savant2
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bkwrds
Sep 22 2009, 12:56 AM
If you have nothing else to do with Samantha, you can use her effect twice. It's just that it's kind of limited. Like, if you attack with Hulk (or whoever your five is) he can ready twice, if you can find another reason to exhaust him.

Ie: Backup Hulk with Samantha during build. Play the Order. Backup Hulk again.

Later, Hulk attacks
He readies
you exhaust him to Invasion Plans or Sanctum Sanctorum
He readies again from the 2nd effect

Obviously not half as good as using Samantha to get 3 attacks, but it has helped me get something useful off Sanctorum in the past.



This was stated in the Defendrer thread. I do not believe her effect allows this to happen because of her wording, (I think the she workd like a atk or def pump in that the applications occur at the same time Ie +6 atk from 2X Flyin Kick and not +3 atk {Pause} +3 atk when he attacks.

What say you oh wise and mighty HC?
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Well, I would say it doesn't work based solely on the wording:

"When target character you control next attacks this turn, ready it. Use only during the build phase.

Eh? Eh? See what I did there?
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I doubt that it will work because both effects will try and trigger on the first attacks and one will just fizzle.
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I'd put money on HC backing me up. LOL.
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vs_savant2
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I gotta a foil Shiva that says he don't. Anyone else want in on this.

:)
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Can I get in the bet?
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Sep 22 2009, 06:24 PM
Can I get in the bet?
Your the Ref. But yeah if your a dirty Ref that can be paid off. :)
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Now - if we can just eratta the rules so you can attack during build...
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It's totally impossible to resolve two effects at the same time. Any time one effect resolves, there is always a new chance to act before any other effect can resolve. The timing of the game is all based around this one rule---two passes in a row resolves one effect.

Each use of Sam Parrington sets up a trigger, each trigger creates an effect, and just like any other time, each player has a chance to act in between them. Until both players pass in a row, the next effect simply can't resolve, so the player is absolutely free to exhaust Hulk for something before letting a second readying effect resolve.
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Poop. I guess I owe HC a Foild Shiva.
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So you can ready Hulk twice with her and attack?
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Sep 22 2009, 08:28 PM
So you can ready Hulk twice with her and attack?
Yes you can ready him to the 1st effect, utilize some sort of exhaust needed effect, and then be readied by the 2nd Samantha Parrington effect. But no he doesn't get to attack 3 times.
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I think the clarity here is that:

Build phase:
Activate Sam targetting Hulk (SamEffect#1).
Play The Order, ready Sam.
Activate Sam targeting Hulk (SamEffect#2)

Combat phase:
Attack with Hulk
SamEffect#1 goes on the chain.
SamEffect#2 goes on the chain.
Ready Hulk to SamEffect#2.
Exhaust Hulk to an effect
Ready Hulk to SamEffect#1
Resolve the rest of the attack step.


If you don't re-exhaust Hulk somehow before SamEffect#1 resolves, it readies an already ready Hulk.

I will say that while Invasion Plans is very good, Team Tactics is my personal favorite with this combo. A 22/11 5-drop is good, I hear.
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So let me get this straight! Sam says when a character next attacks, meaning after re-readying the first time they can attack again. But after that attack resolves, and they re-ready to attack again, that character can't re-ready?? I thought the timing of her effect was one at a time, hence the next attack
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bigflyp
Sep 22 2009, 10:31 PM
So let me get this straight! Sam says when a character next attacks, meaning after re-readying the first time they can attack again. But after that attack resolves, and they re-ready to attack again, that character can't re-ready?? I thought the timing of her effect was one at a time, hence the next attack
I'm not 100% sure which posts you're having trouble with, so I'm not sure which issue it is that you need clarified. Are you confused at why Samantha Parrington doesn't allow 3 attacks? Or are you confused about why you can exhaust Hulk to pay for something using an additional Samantha backup?
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