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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 27 2009, 03:28 AM (644 Views) | |
| TheDerangedBear | Oct 27 2009, 03:28 AM Post #1 |
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Two questions: Does Phoenix Rising RFG'ing Mystique, Raven let me recover any X-Men character? I have Mystique, Foxx revealing Mystique Raven. Can I borrow up Foxx with any character in my hand? |
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| conel3 | Oct 27 2009, 04:18 AM Post #2 |
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Also to add to this If you have just Mystique-Raven on the field can you use four freedom plaza? and does family of four give you +4/+4 or +1/+1? |
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| Bliven731 | Oct 27 2009, 05:33 AM Post #3 |
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@DB 1) No. It says same name. If it said shares a name, then yes. Mystique, Raven, has all names, therefore, only has the same name as Mystique, Raven. 2) I don't think so, but I'm not positive about this one. It says Mystique Raven has all names, however, the names aren't actually a part of it's name... Actually, I have NO IDEA once I get to thinking. Is this not in the MEV FAQ? I can't find it. @conel13 No, because Mystique Raven doesn't have all names when she IS in play. Also, I think Four Freedoms plaza was errataed to have to be 4 different characters? Someone else can confirm this. Family of Four, +0/+0, because once again she has no extra names when she is actually a character in play. |
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| captainspud | Oct 27 2009, 02:41 PM Post #4 |
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1) Bliven is correct, it's "same name", so no Phoenix Rising shenanigans. 2) Yes, you can reveal Raven to Foxx's power and take any name you want. 3) Raven has no extra names while in play. Also, they released a rule update based around FFP, which says that if a card asks you to control A, B, and C, any one card can only satisfy one of them. Thus, you need four different objects to satisfy FFP's restriction. 4) See (3). |
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| conel3 | Oct 27 2009, 05:39 PM Post #5 |
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Ahh that makes sense I thought she was way too amazingly overpowered but turns out I just can't read xD. |
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| kariggi | Oct 27 2009, 05:44 PM Post #6 |
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So if I carrying the torched a character, the same printed character in the KO'd pile couldn't be removed to recover the COT'd character.? |
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| HeroComplex | Oct 27 2009, 06:38 PM Post #7 |
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Slightly worried about how this question is worded---it sounds like you're trying to keep Raven revealed forever and just give Foxx every name she has, which is not how it works. You pay, you reveal her, you pick a name/affiliation, and that's the name Foxx gets for that use of her power. So, yeah, if you have Foxx in play + Raven in hand, you can potentially power Foxx up with anyone---but each name you want to give her will cost 2 endurance, she can't get them all at once. Sounds like you took this just a step too far. Same name does prevent this from being a combo; you can only recover a character with the same name as Mystique, Raven as she left the KO'd pile. This is analogous to the Origin Story interaction which is included in the MEV FAQ---for these one-shot recovery/search modifiers, the game locks in the relevant name right before she changes zones. "Same name" means the same number of names, and that they all match, so Phoenix Rising on Mystique, Raven only lets you recover a character that has all names. Which is why you wouldn't even be able to recover another Mystique, Raven, because she doesn't have all names while in play. (And even if her power did apply in play, it wouldn't be active while she was stunned.) That's correct, Phoenix Rising won't do you much good for a character that's gotten an extra name from Carrying the Torch. If the card you removed had only one name, and the target has two, they can't possibly have the same name. |
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| kariggi | Oct 29 2009, 09:34 PM Post #8 |
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I just wanted since you're here anyway to double check these interaction with which I think she works Cost: 1 Wake the Dead Search your deck for an Underworld character card with the same name as a character in play or a character card in your KO'd pile, reveal it, and put it into your hand. MMK-178 Search any underworld if she is in your KO'd pile. Cost: 3 Meatmarket, Lilin Team: Underworld Concealed - Optional Ranged ATK: 5 DEF: 4 Concealed - Optional Meatmarket gets +1/+1 for each card named Meatmarket in your KO'd pile. She's another +1/+1 per. and same here- Cost: 5 Satana, Satana Hellstrom Team: Underworld Concealed Ranged ATK: 8 DEF: 10 Concealed Satana gets +2 ATK for each card named Satana in your KO'd pile. |
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| HeroComplex | Oct 29 2009, 09:42 PM Post #9 |
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She works fine for Satana and Meatmarket, a character with multiple names is "named" each one. On Wake the Dead---see the discussion of Phoenix Rising above. |
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| Eponymous | Oct 30 2009, 01:31 AM Post #10 |
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Doh! My UW/BH BYOTT deck just lost some of it's awesome tutoring potential. |
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