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Avengers Team-Attack; Totally better than Reservists
Topic Started: May 9 2010, 04:50 AM (1,462 Views)
scottkthompson
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4x Hank Pym, MAV
4x Natasha Romanoff
4x Wasp
4x Quicksilver, Mutant Avenger
3x Captain America, Steve Rogers
4x Carol Danvers
2x Iron Man, Mighty Avenger
4x Monica Rambeau <> Captain Marvel
2x Sub-Mariner, Namor
4x Captain America, Super Soldier
2x Carol Danvers <> Ms. Marvel, Mighty Avenger

4x Mjolnir (MEQ)

4x Legendary Battles
4x Avengers Assemble!
4x Cutting Loose

4x Playroom
3x Asgard

OSM had an original deck that used Carrying the Torch to allow 2 Quicksilver's to be on the table at the same time. Then they could team-attack with each other until your opponent had no board left. Legendary Battles made sure they lasted the whole turn.

I was thinking the other night that it might actually be easier just to run the new Mjolnir instead of Carrying the Torch. And actually, it might work better. For one thing, Mjolnir actually burns for every attack that the Quicksilver's make, which is totally cool.

Thoughts?!
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idk how it'd work without the 2nd quicksilver, I haven't played this variant in years.

I'd feel very uncomfortable running a combo deck that couldn't protect its combo - in this case, if Quicksilver becomes stunned he's done for the turn. Generally even if the quicksilver onslaught isn't enough to finish them off, the board advantage swing will be too huge for them to recover from.

It anything, the equipment would be playroom copies 5-8 - even if you're not gonna do the combo, keeping your board safe sounds really good. It'd take some testing though, depends on how reliable hitting Wasp on 2 is or maintaining board through 6 is.
Edited by Orange_Soda_Man, May 9 2010, 02:34 PM.
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I'm confused, how is it different from the carrying the torch approach? How did we protect the second quicksilver then?
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Maybe I'm missing something here but I'm not sure what you mean by, "without the second quicksilver". Once you drop the Mjolnir on Quicksilver, he gains the name Thor thus allowing a second Quicksilver to hit the field and start the shenanigans. Essentially it does the same thing as Carrying the Torch and doubles as a copy of Playroom. How sweet is that?
Edited by unclechawie, May 9 2010, 03:56 PM.
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Throw in Teen Titans go!. Carol Danvers + TTG + Legendary battles = opponent with no board. For Random Age tourney, I almost built that deck (TT/Avengers team attack); but my desire to play Morlocks overwrote my desire for "mega coolness". Ultimately, Teen Avengers would have worked out better (and it becomes even better if you use the reservist titans from DLS.
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You shouldn't need TTG though. The Quicksilver's will ready after every attack on their own. Load them up with all your Cutting Looses so that together they can clear an opposing board and still swing to the face.
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Yeah, but Carol actually sends them back to hand, you get their biggest drops out of that deal. Seems better. You also get Garth and Titans tower and all the cool toys, and Spiderman 2-drop is a searchable teamup that can be in your resource row. Plus, Roy to shoot guys down off-init.
Edited by EvilDave, May 10 2010, 12:11 AM.
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I didn't know the MEQ one gave another name. I suppose that could substitute for Carrying the Torch. I don't know what I was thinking when I made my previous post lol
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Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything is all.
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May 10 2010, 12:10 AM
Yeah, but Carol actually sends them back to hand, you get their biggest drops out of that deal. Seems better. You also get Garth and Titans tower and all the cool toys, and Spiderman 2-drop is a searchable teamup that can be in your resource row. Plus, Roy to shoot guys down off-init.
I'm working from memory here, but don't titans already have a character that does what Carol does? One of the Vic Stones I think. Again, this is off the top of my head!
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Eh, guess you're right; wow, that guy's good. Suprised he never saw prime time.
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Carol returns 5 or less though, vic is only 4 or less.
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Eh, but he can actually lock faster, and doesn't require teamup.

The big gains from avengers TA is legendary battles and Quicksilver if they have a Danver. Legendary is terrible on its own; so with Cyborg taking most of Carol at a cheaper price it's hard to justify teaming in avengers.
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May 10 2010, 06:46 PM
Eh, but he can actually lock faster, and doesn't require teamup.

The big gains from avengers TA is legendary battles and Quicksilver if they have a Danver. Legendary is terrible on its own; so with Cyborg taking most of Carol at a cheaper price it's hard to justify teaming in avengers.
My thoughts exactly. Both have solid mono-builds that probably become slightly weaker when teamed up. I run that Vic in my updated Titans list (over Beast Boy from the original build) and he rocks!

Besides, Avengers never really needed TTG as they have Marvel on 5 and Quicksilver, who readies himself.

Avengers team-attack was always excellent, but it didn't have a good matchup against Sentinels, who could brick too many attacks with Nimrod and Bastion. As a result, they were dwarfed by their Reservist counterparts, who were actually probably weaker in a straight-up match!
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"he gains the name Thor", but doesn't that just ADD the name Thor, not replace the name quicksilver? I thought it would still run into uniqueness problems
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