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| Cosmic Cube: X-Statix; Core Pack | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 23 2011, 08:40 PM (631 Views) | |
| scottkthompson | Mar 23 2011, 08:40 PM Post #1 |
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This submitted Core Team Pack must: 1) Be 60 cards 2) Be between 35-45 characters and 15-25 non-characters (UDE Ratio=40/20) 3) Be highlander 4) Be comprised of character cards that are on-team and non-character cards that reference the team (exceptions can be made for cards that fit the team's theme well) When listing suggestions, please include card name AND version. Also, please organize your list. For example: 1 Drops 2 Drops 3 Drops 4 Drops 5 Drops 6 Drops 7 Drops 8 Drops Equipment Plot Twists Locations |
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| scottkthompson | Mar 23 2011, 09:28 PM Post #2 |
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1 Drops MMK-050 - C - Coach, Manipulative Mentor MMK-053 - C - Doop, Forward Observer MMK-055 - U - El Guapo, Robbie Rodriguez MMK-062 - R - Phat, William Reilly MMK-181 - R - Professor X, Mutant Mentor 2 Drops MMK-049 - U - Bloke, Mickey Tork MMK-051 - C - Corkscrew, Twisted Trainee MMK-056 - C - Gin Genie, Beckah Parker MMK-072 - C - Vivisector, Myles Alfred MEV-070 - R - Vivisector, Beast Within 3 Drops MMK-060 - C - Orphan, Guy Smith MAV-215 - U - Phat, Liv'n Large MMK-063 - C - Plazm, Protoplasmic Protagonist MMK-065 - C - Sluk, Byron Spencer MEV-069 - C - U-Go-Girl, Tele-Girl MMK-070 - U - Venus Dee Milo, Telegenic Teleporter 4 Drops MEV-046 - U - Anarchist, Acid Blast MMK-057 - C - La Nuit, Pierre Truffaut MMK-064 - C - Saint Anna, Sympathetic Healer MMK-066 - C - The Spike, Angry Young Mutant MMK-068 - U - U-Go-Girl, Tragic Teleporter 5 Drops MMK-047 - U - Anarchist, Tike Alicar MMK-048 - C - Battering Ram, Short-Lived Strongman MMK-052 - C - Dead Girl, Crafty Cadaver MXM-209 - U - Henrietta Hunter, X-Celebrity MMK-061 - R - Orphan, Mr. Sensitive MEV-062 - R - Phat, Junk in the Trunk MMK-071 - C - Vivisector, Lunatic Lycanthrope 6 Drops MMK-058 - C - Mysterious Fan Boy, Arthur Lundberg MEV-060 - C - Orphan, Russian Roulette MMK-067 - U - U-Go-Girl, Edie Sawyer MMK-069 - R - Venus Dee Milo, Dee Milo MMK-073 - C - Zeitgeist, Axel Cluney 7 Drops MMK-046 - R - Anarchist, Man of the People MEV-054 - R - Doop, Extra-Dimensional Void MMK-059 - C - Orphan, Good Guy 8 Drops MMK-054 - R - Doop, Ultimate Weapon MMK-075 - C - Doop Cam MMK-076 - C - Falling Stars MMK-077 - C - Glory Hound MMK-078 - U - Go in Swinging MMK-080 - U - Mind Over Matter MMK-081 - C - Missed Drop MMK-086 - R - Star of the Show MMK-087 - C - Supporting Role MMK-186 - C - Day of the Dead MMK-079 - U - Grandstanding MAV-216 - R - Mutant of the Year MMK-082 - C - Nerve Strike MMK-084 - C - Overexposed MMK-188 - R - Team X-change MMK-074 - U - Dead Weight MHG-216 - R - O-Force MMK-085 - R - Spin Doctoring MMK-083 - U - Never Give Up! MMK-219 - U - Team Spirit MMK-090 - R - X-Statix HQ MEV-075 - C - Doopworld, Team-Up MMK-088 - U - Training Theatre MMK-089 - C - X-Statix Café I needed to include one generic (Team Spirit) because there are only 59 X-Statix Cards. |
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| mrmaul558 | Mar 23 2011, 09:47 PM Post #3 |
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So, is this just a list of all 59 X-Statix cards with one generic? Seems like it should be a sub pack, since this Cube thing is supposed to create a very powerful draft environment... Then again, this may be a very powerful pack, but, seeing as how I am a Cube expert and not a VS limited expert, I'm not sure if it is. But I think the ability to cut cards that aren't good enough to be drafted/Cube Drafted is important. Edited by mrmaul558, Mar 23 2011, 09:48 PM.
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| Orange_Soda_Man | Mar 23 2011, 09:54 PM Post #4 |
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agreed. That's why, even though the X-Men have over 150 characters, only 45 made the cut in my X-Men pack. That said, I don't know enough about X-Statix to say one way or another how strong this pool is. My initial thought is that there are too many 1-drops and a 6-drop could 'prolly get cut. I'm sure there are more generics that are good enough to be tied strictly to the X-Statix to make up for it. Edited by Orange_Soda_Man, Mar 23 2011, 09:56 PM.
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| scottkthompson | Mar 24 2011, 12:53 AM Post #5 |
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Before putting X-Statix as a core team, we had 24 Core teams and 31 Sub teams. This prevented us from having all 8 cubes assembled at once. To have 8 Cubes simultaneously assembled, we need 24 and 32 or 25 and 30. I like the idea of building all 8 Cubes (which can fit in 4 generic card boxes), and then simply swapping a team from one cube to another when you want. That's why I decided to switch X-Statix (the only sub team that could) up to a Core team. However, for the sake of this project, I could list them as a Sub Pack, and just make them a Core Pack in my own personal collection. |
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| foogoo | Mar 25 2011, 02:53 PM Post #6 |
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Nah, keep them as a core pack, they can be the Dan (of Street Fighter fame) of the cube! A confident player that wants to show off can pick them in order to prove they are that much better by beating everybody with an arguably underpowered deck. Or I'm being an idiot, it is early after all. |
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| Hatman | Mar 25 2011, 02:56 PM Post #7 |
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The problem is you probably cannot build a very viable X-Statix deck if they are a core team, since they have two themes that are completely at odds with each other. Half of their characters/effects need you to have a large field and the other half need you to have only one character in play. For playability it would make sense to either add some generics for one of their themes or cut them down to a sub team. |
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| scottkthompson | Mar 25 2011, 04:25 PM Post #8 |
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Remember that when you draft you only build 30 card decks and can pass the characters that don't fit your theme while pulling the ones that do. When MMK was drafted, drafters had to deal with both themes. I'm not quite sure what's different here. Just my 2 cents. |
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| mrmaul558 | Mar 25 2011, 04:25 PM Post #9 |
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If this is the case, make 2 Sub-Teams, each focusing on the different themes? |
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| mrmaul558 | Mar 25 2011, 04:28 PM Post #10 |
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Whats different here is that we have total control over the draft pool. And, the object is to make the most powerful singleton draft pool possible. It seems to me that not being able to cut bad cards out of a team doesn't allow for the "most powerful pool". And, it seems to me that you want this team to be a Core team, but sort of function as a Sub-team within the draft... "pass what doesn't fit your theme". So, you pick one half of the Core Pack and can only draft that? Seems like a Sub Team. Again, speaking from a cube-expert POV, as I know very little about various vs teams that I have no experience with. |
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| Orange_Soda_Man | Mar 28 2011, 08:31 PM Post #11 |
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I think it's fine to include multiple themes within a team's pack. In Magic terms, the argument against X-Statix would be similar to saying blue can't have both aggro merfolk and counterspells, since they don't fit the same theme. Or red with land destruction and burn. Most teams aren't as polarizing as X-Statix, sure, but whatever. We won't know 'till we sleeve it up and shuffle 'em up. |
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| scottkthompson | Apr 22 2011, 12:13 AM Post #12 |
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If you want X-Statix to be a Sub Pack, how about this? This submitted Sub Team Pack must: 1) Be 30 cards 2) Be between 17-23 characters and 7-13 non-characters (UDE Ratio=20/10) 3) Be highlander 4) Be Comprised of character cards that are on-team and non-character cards that reference the team (exceptions can be made for cards that fit the team's theme well) When listing suggestions, please include card name AND version. Also, please organize your list. For example: 1 Drops MMK-053 - C - Doop, Forward Observer MMK-062 - R - Phat, William Reilly 2 Drops MMK-051 - C - Corkscrew, Twisted Trainee MMK-072 - C - Vivisector, Myles Alfred MEV-070 - R - Vivisector, Beast Within 3 Drops MMK-060 - C - Orphan, Guy Smith MMK-063 - C - Plazm, Protoplasmic Protagonist MMK-065 - C - Sluk, Byron Spencer MEV-069 - C - U-Go-Girl, Tele-Girl MMK-070 - U - Venus Dee Milo, Telegenic Teleporter 4 Drops MEV-046 - U - Anarchist, Acid Blast MMK-068 - U - U-Go-Girl, Tragic Teleporter 5 Drops MMK-048 - C - Battering Ram, Short-Lived Strongman MMK-052 - C - Dead Girl, Crafty Cadaver MEV-062 - R - Phat, Junk in the Trunk 6 Drops MEV-060 - C - Orphan, Russian Roulette MMK-073 - C - Zeitgeist, Axel Cluney 7 Drops MMK-046 - R - Anarchist, Man of the People MEV-054 - R - Doop, Extra-Dimensional Void MMK-075 - C - Doop Cam MMK-077 - C - Glory Hound MMK-078 - U - Go in Swinging MMK-086 - R - Star of the Show MAV-216 - R - Mutant of the Year MMK-084 - C - Overexposed MMK-074 - U - Dead Weight MHG-216 - R - O-Force MMK-085 - R - Spin Doctoring MMK-090 - R - X-Statix HQ MMK-089 - C - X-Statix Café |
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