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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 5 2011, 05:15 AM (359 Views) | |
| dromatez | Jul 5 2011, 05:15 AM Post #1 |
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Does anyone on this forum do escrow? if not i think we should get one started so people can feel safer about overseas and long distant trades. What do you guys think? |
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| Lou | Jul 5 2011, 06:22 AM Post #2 |
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I completely agree with this. I don't feel really comfortable shipping outside of the US. I was actually thinking about starting a thread such as this... |
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| vssystemnPoland | Jul 5 2011, 06:44 AM Post #3 |
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I had no idea what it was until I looked it up online. It looks interesting, but my question is what is the difference in trading overseas with a person with only positive feedback and trading with a person in the US? What does this escrow service do that can't be done between 2 people wanting to complete a trade or buy together? Just asking, because it's new to me. -vssystemnPoland
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| Lou | Jul 5 2011, 08:35 AM Post #4 |
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An escrow works as follows: If I'm in a trade with someone, the two of us can mutually agree to send to a certain person that we both feel we can trust. Once that person receives our ends, he will then send out for the both of us. |
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| Beastboy | Jul 5 2011, 08:41 AM Post #5 |
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+1 VSSystemPoland There is a lot of non US citizen who trade on this forum without any problem... Moreover... its about VS system, a I really dont think it is a problem when you trade cards that have value only for people on this forum. Everyone knows everyone. I dont think a black market of cards is expectable... As an european trader, I would prefer trading with european people, of course I feel more safe when I send cards to italy or spain, its not realistic... The only option I see for escrow is about BUYING cards from overseas. There is regularly new member who come on this forum to say they are selling their collection (in general, from the US), and there is some european who buy lot of cards (including me or Vs systempoland), and im pretty sure there is the contrary... But afterall... is paypal not enough secure to guarantee transactions? Edited by Beastboy, Jul 5 2011, 08:43 AM.
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| vssystemnPoland | Jul 5 2011, 08:42 AM Post #6 |
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ok, Lou, I see what you're saying, but what difference does it make if the person is overseas? Take me for example. Between this site and tradecardsonline I've got over 30 completed trades/buys with all positive feedback. Why would I want to use escrow (paying 2x postage) to trade with someone in the U.S. when all they have to do is check my trade history and see that I can be trusted. If someone wanted to use escrow for all trades they ever do I could understand that, but I don't get the difference in trading overseas and trading within the U.S. Trading overseas is going to be more expensive, granted, but using an escrow service just doubles that cost of the shipping. Interesting idea though that some people might seriously want to consider using, especially if they are new to trading or if they are wanting to trade with someone new to trading. Edited by vssystemnPoland, Jul 5 2011, 08:44 AM.
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| Kwikee08 | Jul 5 2011, 11:45 AM Post #7 |
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personally i dont think that it is needed... i just follow the simple rules of what their feedback is. if they have good feedback from multiple trades then i dont hesitate to trade or buy from them but if they are new to the site then b4 i trade i have them send their cards first... true one of these days i may get screwed when someone decides to quit or something of the sort but i just prefer to try and trust people on here if i can. im not saying that the escrow thing is a bad idea but i personally dont think ill ever use it |
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| Lou | Jul 5 2011, 01:53 PM Post #8 |
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I don't think all of this is stemming from trust issues or anything like that, I think it's just a better form of security. There is one person that I know of (he may or may not still do it) that could always be used as an escrow, and that's KardKrazy. Maybe he should share his input. |
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| KardKrazy | Jul 5 2011, 05:12 PM Post #9 |
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Did somebody mention my name?:p I have zero issue with Escrow being used but that being said I also don't think its needed because of the quality of traders we have here. I trust every single one of you guys (even you Lou;). Foreign or Domestic I'd trade, sell, or buy from any of you anytime. As for me being an Escrow Agent per say. I sadly just don't have the time anymore with my crazy work schedule. later, Kj |
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| dromatez | Jul 5 2011, 08:23 PM Post #10 |
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Only reason I bring it up is cause I've been burned bad. The guy had 20+ great refs. I had about 12. Everything looked good, I had less so I sent first. 12 days later I ask if he got the cards, he said yes and I asked when he was sending my. Just in a non caring way was, nah I think I'll just keep my cards! I said well send mine back and again, nah I'll just keep yours! Then he went away from the site. I told everyone online, gave address so ppl wouldn't ship to it, but in the end I learned to use escrow for anything over $50 for overseas. It's not my attention to say all people over seas are rippers. Many probably don't have a problem. I'm not new to the community. I personally know carlosthedwarf, baldman and may others. I was just seeing if there was an escrow or if we should start one. I have zero trade refs right now so I'm sending first all the time. Just gun shy coming to overseas for me. So please, I don't want anyone taking this personal or an attack fir trading overseas. |
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| Dominator407 | Jul 5 2011, 08:32 PM Post #11 |
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I don't blame you. I was really worried when I started trading just a month ago. So, I wouldn't mind having an escrow, but it would be asking alot to the person doing it. And, it would have to be a really trustworthy person, which from my point of view is still pretty scary considering I don't know most of you. But, it really sucks when someone decides to take advantage of one of us, and then just leave the site. And, I'm not just worried about people overseas, I'm in the US and there is alot of crappy people that would do the same. Anyway, that's my two cents.
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| vssystemnPoland | Jul 5 2011, 09:27 PM Post #12 |
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Yeah, I think Dominator has a point. Overseas, U.S., it doesn't matter. There will always be bad apples. With the status of VS right now I don't think that this is a game that would have a high amount of "rippers". As beastboy said, what value do these cards really have right now outside of our strong faithful? For those that want to use an escrow for safety, I see that there are sites that do it online, and maybe someone here would want to. But, being an overseas trader paying 2x the shipping doesn't appeal to me, especially after doing many trades and buys with people all over the globe (U.S., Spain, France, Italy, Finland, Philippines, Puerto Rico). If I left someone's country off that I have traded with, sorry. :). I also have confidence in these people I see cruising the boards and posting in the forums. They are the ones keeping VS alive. Long live Vs, escrow, no escrow, or somewhere in between. Let's keep the trades going and the game alive.
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| dromatez | Jul 5 2011, 11:02 PM Post #13 |
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I'm going to do my trading but I was just seeing if there was an escrow setup. And I wanted escrow for the states too cause the east coast is Far to drive to. Inside my head I find little comfort that I could take a road trip in the states and get my stuff back. Since I don't fly, yea I know I don't have that comfort. Getting burned too didn't help but what do u do. Everyone I talked to one here seemed really good so I'm not that worried. Just thought I would put it out there and see if there was a feeling of needing one. I'm new to the site so I don't have the feel yet. I do hope I get to know all of u and when they relaunch the game we will have our trade community setup. |
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