MFA terms Torchbearer and Prowler and other Q's

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MFA terms Torchbearer and Prowler and other Q's; MFA Card advice
Topic Started: Jul 10 2012, 09:57 PM (287 Views)
SKAZ1	Jul 10 2012, 09:57 PM Post #1
Senior Member Posts: 135 Group: Member Member #8,852 Joined: November 14, 2011	Could someone advice me on what the term "Prowler" in the MFA set means and does? Also the term "Torchbearer" although I can see what it does but does this mean that a character with the Torchbearer term is no longer unique as I thought that the character would have to be KO ed if it had the same name? Last question which is a bit more specific. Rachel Summers Phoenix (mfa 023) allows you to recover and ready a stunned character , would this allow you to keep Wolfsbane (mfa 027) in the game since her text says "whenever Wolfsbane becomes stunned, remove her from the game" I guess I am asking which one would take priority if you used Rachel Summers ability before Wolfsbane became stunned. Thanks in advance Dave ps Loving the Excalibur theme of bouncy characters and a single powerhouse.



bungo_underhill	Jul 10 2012, 10:04 PM Post #2
Senior Member Posts: 554 Group: Senior Member Member #464 Joined: March 15, 2007	See the MFA FAQ linked here: http://w11.zetaboards.com/vssystem/topic/7381297/1/



SKAZ1	Jul 10 2012, 10:29 PM Post #3
Senior Member Posts: 135 Group: Member Member #8,852 Joined: November 14, 2011	Thanks for that, I think it has answered the first 2 parts of my question but just to clarify if I am understanding "torchbearer" correctly; A character is still unique and would be KO ed but a different character sharing the same identity would gain those powers? I couldn't find anything on the more specific 3rd part of my question listed though? cheers Dave



AlphaSilvr	Jul 10 2012, 10:43 PM Post #4
Senior Member Posts: 496 Group: Member Member #8,654 Joined: June 15, 2011	Quote: Rachel Summers Phoenix (mfa 023) allows you to recover and ready a stunned character , would this allow you to keep Wolfsbane (mfa 027) in the game since her text says "whenever Wolfsbane becomes stunned, remove her from the game" I guess I am asking which one would take priority if you used Rachel Summers ability before Wolfsbane became stunned. It doesn't matter which one takes priority. If Wolfsbane says "Whenever Wolfsbane becomes stunned, remove her from the game." she will be removed from the game regardless if she recovers since she still stunned. It doesn't matter if she recovered or not.



SKAZ1	Jul 10 2012, 10:49 PM Post #5
Senior Member Posts: 135 Group: Member Member #8,852 Joined: November 14, 2011	I think I should have thought that one through a bit better, so basically all 4 things will take effect, she will "stun" "recover" "ready" and still get "removed from game" Thanks for the clear answer, cheers Dave



bungo_underhill	Jul 11 2012, 08:37 AM Post #6
Senior Member Posts: 554 Group: Senior Member Member #464 Joined: March 15, 2007	SKAZ1 Jul 10 2012, 10:29 PM Thanks for that, I think it has answered the first 2 parts of my question but just to clarify if I am understanding "torchbearer" correctly; A character is still unique and would be KO ed but a different character sharing the same identity would gain those powers? I couldn't find anything on the more specific 3rd part of my question listed though? cheers Dave Characters are Unique by Name not by identity If two characters have the same name "torchbearer" won't stop on of them going to the KO'd pile due to uniqueness. "Iron Man <> Night Thrasher" and "Night Thrasher" Share an Identity but not a name so if you play both neither is put in the KO'd pile due to uniqueness. And If you play Iron Man second he will gain Night Thrasher's printed powers.



Biderman	Jul 11 2012, 04:01 PM Post #7
Senior Member Posts: 178 Group: Member Member #8,623 Joined: May 19, 2011	What is the wording on Rachel Summers?



banstylejbo	Jul 12 2012, 04:28 AM Post #8
Elite Member Posts: 1,028 Group: Senior Member Member #7,723 Joined: February 20, 2009	AlphaSilvr is correct. Regardless of what happens to Wolfsbane after she is stunned, she will be removed from the game as long as she is still on the table. Should you return her to your hand or put her into your KO'd pile/resource row she will not be removed since the game sees a card as a different entity once it changes zones and anything that would have happened to the card in the other zone fizzles.



SKAZ1	Jul 13 2012, 01:30 PM Post #9
Senior Member Posts: 135 Group: Member Member #8,852 Joined: November 14, 2011	Would this also apply if she was moved from the visible zone to the hidden zone then. I'm guessing not but thought I would ask to make sure. cheers Dave



AlphaSilvr	Jul 13 2012, 02:01 PM Post #10
Senior Member Posts: 496 Group: Member Member #8,654 Joined: June 15, 2011	No. Visible and Hidden are areas and not zones. Game Definitions: Quote: Zone There are six zones in the Vs. System: deck, hand, in-play, chain, KO'd pile, and removed-from-game. Each is also referred to without the word "zone"; for example, a player's deck zone is also called the player's "deck". Area An area is a section of the in-play zone. Each player controls two areas in the in-play zone: visible and hidden. These two areas are separated by an empty column, with a visible area on the right of this empty column and a hidden area on the left of this empty column. Objects can't occupy this column. Edited by AlphaSilvr, Jul 13 2012, 02:04 PM.



danger	Jul 19 2012, 08:19 PM Post #11
Senior Member Posts: 108 Group: Member Member #7,756 Joined: March 3, 2009	I had a couple questions. One I asked banjo in the MFA print thread but was unsure of the answer. Heroes for Hire requires that the opponent is missing BOTH flight and range right? So if they just have flight or range my abilities don't trigger? second: Power and Iron: Two target Heroes for Hire attackers each get +2 ATK this attack. If those attackers are Iron Fist and Luke Cage, whenever an opposing defender becomes stunned this attack, return that character to its owner's hand. If there is only one attacker in the attack, then the player can't use this PT right? I figured it was like Bosom Buddies from MEV, but i let it slide while playing since it was a casual game.



AlphaSilvr	Jul 19 2012, 09:22 PM Post #12
Senior Member Posts: 496 Group: Member Member #8,654 Joined: June 15, 2011	Question 2) Yes, there has to be 2 attackers. It does NOT say UP TO two attackers, it is very specific.



AlphaSilvr	Jul 20 2012, 02:52 PM Post #13
Senior Member Posts: 496 Group: Member Member #8,654 Joined: June 15, 2011	Quote: One I asked banjo in the MFA print thread but was unsure of the answer. Heroes for Hire requires that the opponent is missing BOTH flight and range right? So if they just have flight or range my abilities don't trigger? I would believe you are correct from the way they are worded. The opposing character MUST NOT have either flight or range. If they have one or the other, the abilities will not trigger. Edited by AlphaSilvr, Jul 20 2012, 02:59 PM.



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