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| T-Unit | Jan 29 2015, 06:13:08 PM Post #3041 |
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Hey Dude, are Big Show and Kane deserving of X-Pac heat like I've been saying or no? |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 06:21:42 PM Post #3042 |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 06:24:00 PM Post #3043 |
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F**k it... Cena vs. Rock. vs. Hogan. This would work to the benefit of Hogan because he'll be able to rest a lot while Cena and Rock do most of the work. Edited by pokajabba, Jan 29 2015, 07:33:11 PM.
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 06:39:45 PM Post #3044 |
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THIRD ASCENSION MEMBER Mick Foley -- ''Yes, the newest member of the #Advension has been announced as #NBA star Marcin Gortat. Sources tell me that Gortat will make fun of deceased NBA players in what is always a sure-fire method of getting heat. — with marcin gortat, Isaac Reeder, and Roy Armstrong.'' https://www.facebook.com/RealMickFoley/photos/a.150133228350157.28288.126269440736536/1002125459817592/?type=1 |
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| The_Dude | Jan 29 2015, 06:42:24 PM Post #3045 |
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Daniel Bryan: I get it; I'm on board. Dean Ambrose: I get it; I'm on board Ryback: I'm probably more on board than I should be. Dolph Ziggler: I'm sorry, I don't get it. How has this guy maintained support? Why was this guy one of the few guys that the crowd didn't shit all over after DB was eliminated? Don't get me wrong, I like watching Ziggler wrestle, I've been a fan of his ring work going back to his matches with Mysterio for the IC Title in 2009. However, as with several other IWC darlings (Shelton, Morrison, Kofi come to mind) when WWE stopped pushing they mysteriously also seemed to stop having the kind of matches and efforts that earned them the support in the first place. How did Ziggler endure that with fan support? What makes him different? Now I haven't seen his performance at Survivor Series, so maybe that would have reminded me about his in ring talent, but I just don't get it. Every time I hear Ziggler get on a microphone, I find him downright unlikeable. He tries so damn hard to be the coolest kid in school, it is painful. He appeals to me less on the mic than John Cena. |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 07:25:10 PM Post #3046 |
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Can anyone else imagine these two as a Tag-Team? |
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| T-Unit | Jan 29 2015, 07:46:59 PM Post #3047 |
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Ok, I guess I'll try to take up the argument for why fans support Ziggler. I'm not Ziggler's biggest fan, but I am a fan of his going back to his days as a heel 4+ years ago. Ziggler is a good talent, he can talk, he can wrestle, and he has a good look. He's got everything WWE could want except he's kind of got a high pitched voice and he doesn't look like a juiced up moron. The problem with Ziggler is he's too good in the ring, that he outshines other guys WWE would rather push and as such WWE has to punish him for being better. Physically, Ziggler isn't the biggest guy in the ring and he can often be viewed as the underdog because of that which, when added with the burials the guy has had to face in the past, fans gravitate towards him because he's not getting a fair shake. Guys like Benjamin, Morrison, and Kofi failed because they were one dimensional, Ziggler isn't. With those three you mentioned, I can't think of one promo that they ever cut that stood out and the one non promo thing I can remember Kofi doing was boom dropping Orton in MSG in 2009. Ziggler went over Cena a few years ago, Ziggler was the sole survivor at SuSe a few months ago, and he just got back from a storyline firing. Basically, Ziggler is leaps and bounds better than those other guys because he's not a gimmick. Benjamin was the gimmick of a cocky black athlete similar to MVP, Morrison was a gimmick of a rock star, and Kofi is the gimmick of a servile, jovial black guy that might as well be from the 1920's. Kofi might as well be given symbols and thrown in a jester costume like the monkey in Toy Story 3 because there's next to no difference between them in their presentation. I'm shocked and appalled Dude that you would dare to compare Ziggler to Kofi Kingston. There's a reason that Kofi got packaged with Big E, who is seemingly just a package figure, and Woods. It's because Kofi has nothing to do and has nowhere to go. Ziggler can tread water on his own and can make it fun to watch, whereas when Kofi alone got a feud, it was based on nothing and built on nothing. Speaking of X-Pac heat earlier for Big Show and Kane, Kofi ought to get some because he's been on tv for what, 8 years now, and he's done one thing I can remember. The guys look hasn't even changed that entire time. For god's sake Kofi, shave the dreads, grow a goatee and become black Stone Cold and chug malt liquor. It'd be a lot less frustrating and offensive than what you are now. |
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| TGM | Jan 29 2015, 08:14:02 PM Post #3048 |
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Well we have both Money in the Bank and Tables, Ladders, and Chairs (... and Stairs...), so it's not like WWE's opposed to having two PPV's that're based around what's essentially the same sorta gimmick match... |
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| The_Dude | Jan 29 2015, 08:20:58 PM Post #3049 |
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I compared Kofi and Ziggler only in the sense that they've been IWC darlings at one point or another that I have often heard people mention wishing get a push. I made no comparison between their actual skills or compare my opinion on either (For the record, I'd take Ziggler over Kofi ever day of the week and twice on Sundays). However, for devil's advocate purpose, a marginal defense of Kofi, the one time WWE seemed to get behind Kofi (that feud with Orton) people embraced it... until it turned out that he was stupid... stupid. As I recall, that boom drop was coupled with a far better promo than I've ever heard from wannabe Zack Morris when he destroyed Orton race car. My official position on Kofi has pretty much always been curiosity as to how he has his support as I cannot recall a single truly memorable Kofi match (as a point of reference, Zack Ryder has a match I can remember (vs Christian for the ECWWE Title). |
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| ToTheBank | Jan 29 2015, 08:26:31 PM Post #3050 |
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Re-watched Takers entrance at WM 29 in NY/NJ. That is my favorite entrance ever, man. What a spectacle to see Taker walk through fog while hands from presumably Hell try to bring him back. Man, it just adds to what is one of my all-time favorite matches |
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| ToTheBank | Jan 29 2015, 08:48:53 PM Post #3051 |
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Watching the Taker v Punk match again just pisses me off that the streak was ended. It never should have been ended!!! So infuriating What an amazing match. Suck awesome storytelling |
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| T-Unit | Jan 29 2015, 08:58:08 PM Post #3052 |
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That was the only match worth watching at 29. Not worth $60 alone though. Triple H-Brock nearly put me to sleep the first 5 minutes and Rock-Cena was an atrocious ending. |
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| Static | Jan 29 2015, 08:58:25 PM Post #3053 |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 08:58:54 PM Post #3054 |
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I'm not sure whether I agree Ziggler is a particularly ''good'' wrestler. He can sell moves well enough and can often make other people look strong, but as a ''wrestler'' he probably has less to offer than John Cena when it comes to his actual in-ring capabilities. In fact, for someone who proclaims himself as the ''show-stealer'', he probably doesn't rank anywhere close to other top athletes like Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Daniel Bryan, (ect) when it comes to delivering the best matches of the year. You could argue that's only because he isn't given a chance like most of the other guys in the company, but even when WWE showed him a moderate amount of interest all those years ago, only some of his matches really stood out to me. As for his mic work, I believe I can only recall two promos he's delivered in his whole career that were worth a damn. And considering both of them were from backstage interviews, something tells me that the only reason as to why Ziggler was able to deliver his lines so well, was because they were re-shot multiple times. This explains why he can only ever really deliver on the mic when he's not in-front of a live audience. As soon as you put him in the ring and ask him to accomplish the same thing, suddenly he loses the ability to hold the audiences attention. And please don't take this the wrong way, as some kind of desperate attempt to hate on the guy. This is just me pointing out flaws I've picked up on over the years. When given the chance, he's still better than average, and there is certainly potential there for improvements. But do I truly and honestly believe he's one of WWE's top performers..? Not really. That said, I'll support any sort of feud or encounter he has with Daniel Bryan, especially when it's scheduled to take place at this years Wrestlemania. The likelihood of them putting on a great show is almost guaranteed. Although, in my personal opinion, I doubt Ziggler will be the driving force behind what makes it stand out as a Wrestlemania worthy engagement. Daniel Bryan is the kind of guy who can have a quality bout with pretty much anything and anyone, and I'm sure some of the success will come from his contributions and in-ring ability alone. Like I said earlier, Dolph Ziggler works best when he's paired against people who are capable of taking the driving seat in the ring, and in that respect he actually reminds me of (dare I say it) wrestlers like Batista, who also needed that extra push from others. Without a good opponent, Dolph Ziggler's work usually amounts to nothing, whereas people like Daniel Bryan are fully capable of making the most out of any given situation. Anywho, I'm sure it'll be a blast, and at the end of the day that's all that really matters. The mainstream attention alone will only serve to benefit Dolph Ziggler, despite whatever the outcome may be. Edited by pokajabba, Jan 30 2015, 12:03:35 AM.
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| T-Unit | Jan 29 2015, 09:01:40 PM Post #3055 |
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poka, I've not read your last post, but I know you don't care for Ziggler. The point with Ziggler now is that he's been built up the past 3 months to a level that warrants a bigger match at Mania than the Battle Royal or with Bryan in a non-title match. Kofi in 8 years has never been built up like Ziggler has the past 3 months. |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 09:03:45 PM Post #3056 |
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Agreed. You could tell Punk would do anything, even if it meant literally killing himself, to put on a good show that night. |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 09:24:48 PM Post #3057 |
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| T-Unit | Jan 29 2015, 09:31:42 PM Post #3058 |
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Replace Austin's body with mick foley's and you may have an accurate comparison. |
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| pokajabba | Jan 29 2015, 10:27:39 PM Post #3059 |
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What about Roman Reigns? 
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| T-Unit | Jan 29 2015, 11:04:24 PM Post #3060 |
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Put his face on Chyna's body |
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