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Jan 17 2016, 03:04:57 AM
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It looks as though Ronda Rousey has finally started training to become a professional wrestler.

I wonder who she will face at WrestleMania? :hhh: :steph:
Ah, it turns out this might be an older video.

Apparently, Ronda has been in the process of training for a while now, but it doesn't necessarily mean she'll go on to wrestle for WWE. From what I can gather, she is merely a fan of the industry, and does it for recreational purposes only. I guess we'll soon find out.
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Jan 17 2016, 03:37:46 AM
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Jan 17 2016, 03:04:57 AM
https://www.facebook.com/WeLoveProWrestlingPage/videos/1020341504697093/

It looks as though Ronda Rousey has finally started training to become a professional wrestler.

I wonder who she will face at WrestleMania? :hhh: :steph:
Ah, it turns out this might be an older video.

Apparently, Ronda has been in the process of training for a while now, but it doesn't necessarily mean she'll go on to wrestle for WWE. From what I can gather, she is merely a fan of the industry, and does it for recreational purposes only. I guess we'll soon find out.
This is a tough one. Would she make as much money with WWE as with UFC? I doubt it. Women's wrestling has been around a long time and with how WWE has been treating women's wrestling for the better part of the last two decades, I doubt even casual viewers would find any interest in watching it.

Lesnar is a draw because he's a beast and a man, Rousey would be a special attraction on par of that with Snooki.

Unless Rousey is getting tired of all the media and attention, and it's negatively affecting her performance which it looked like in her last fight, then I'd tell her to just stay away.
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^I'm afraid I must disagree with you here.

I actually believe Ronda Rousey's presence in WWE would be extremely beneficial in helping to legitimize female wrestling with mainstream audiences. Granted, for a long time WWE treated the female roster very unfairly (it's actually rather sickening when you really think about it), but anyone can see just how much the company has improved since then. Now don't get me wrong here, there's still areas that could use more work, as well as space for refinements to be made, not to mention the amount of setbacks there have been along the way (looking at you, Divas Revolution)... But if you take into consideration the sheer amount of screen time female wrestlers have gained as competitors since the Attitude Era, who now go out there and headline actual matches that are significant in some way, I think it's safe to say WWE is slowly on the right track.

There have been a surprising number of people who've said the Iron Man Match between Bayley and Sasha Banks, from the NXT TakeOver: Respect PPV, wasn't particularly as 'great' as some made it out to be. And while this may indeed be true, I think those same individuals have forgotten that wrestling is made up of 'moments', just as much as it is made up of overall match quality or finesse. Now don't get me wrong, both are definitely important in the grand scheme of things, but, from my point of view, I felt in this particular instance a 'moment' was sorely needed to really help show people that female wrestling can be just as emotional, impactful and meaningful as anything you'll find on the men's roster. So even though that bout may not have been the most quality driven one you'll find out there, from my perspective, it shall go down in history as a moment that really helped reshape the foundations of the company. The same way Hogan slamming Andre was able to capture the imagination of every wrestling fan back in the day, and arguably set the groundwork in place for what Wrestlemania would eventually go on to represent and become. Which, I might add, was an incredibly poor match as far as in-ring quality goes (IMO). But the point is that it was very influential, and lead to even more incredible matches/moments later down the line. Which is the reason why Sasha and Bayley's 'Iron Man Match' carries such weight behind it, because from here on out it can only get better. At least I'm hoping it will, anyway.

So yeah, it's one thing to say there's still plenty of room for improvements to be made, but it's something else entirely to imply that it's just as terrible as it has always been. As far as I'm concerned, female wrestling has come a very long way since the days of old, and I'm just grateful that in my lifetime I will probably get to witness that pinnacle moment when it finally explodes. I'd like to think we're not very far off now, and having someone like Ronda Rousey be the one to edge it closer towards that breaking point, perhaps even going on to lead the charge, is something I'm very excited about.

I'm just looking forward to the day when female wrestlers have equal opportunity to headline Wrestlemania. The change is coming, I can feel it. It's only a matter of time now. Then again, what if I'm wrong? I believe this would only prove that WWE, and most of society in general, will never be capable of growing up.
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^My apologies for the overly long post. I just wanted to add my two cents, and realise T-Unit probably wasn't suggesting what I thought he was. I guess that's what happens when you barely have any sleep. :laugh:

Anyway, the only other thing I wanted to add here is how receptive fans seem to have been lately with female wrestling. From what I've gathered, they've responded rather positively towards the idea that these athletes are starting to be taken more seriously. And casual fans usually go with the flow of whatever is trending, so all WWE should probably focus on is making some kind of impact and/or change that grabs everyone's attention. For instance, if WWE's main female roster were taken anywhere near as seriously as the NXT one currently is (which, for the most part, includes sharing close to an equal amount of screentime as the men), then I'm fairly confident a large portion of followers would get on board. If WWE made efforts to build upon their matches, storylines and to make sure everybody was given an equal amount of the spotlight - I'm sure their popularity would then begin to rise rapidly. I'm guessing that a vast majority of the hardcore fans might react well to this, and this could potentially lead to the casual fans catching on as time goes by. I mean, it's a shame some people have to be persuaded into stuff like this, and how it doesn't tend to just come naturally. But I guess that's the world we live in, and humans still have a lot of learning to do. It also doesn't exactly make matters any better when WWE hinders the progress of their superstars for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Or, in the case of the main female roster, are quite inconsistent with how they're handling their storylines. But hopefully it's something they're willing to work on in the future.
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For the women's wrestling becoming majorly successful, I'm looking at Bayley. Point in case: She's MAJOR over in NXT. Literally everyone likes her - kids and adults alike.

The jump to main roster is key, and this is where I think they'll garner the most success: she should be built up as the female John Cena. She's already got the bubbly persona that goes over with the kids and the adults love the wrestling technique she does have. It's effectively the perfect combo: WWE have a PG perfect star who already does the perfect promos they'd be looking for (fight against the odds, never give up etc.) and the fans have someone who competes at a brilliant level.

That then leaves you with Sasha Banks to build up as the #1 women's heel. See in case the Ironwoman match, and what she did with Izzy. More of that from Sasha with more of Bayley to combat it. Done.

Of course, Vince will screw this up somehow. He always does.
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WWE should also consider decommissioning the term 'diva' at some point if they plan to move on from the days when attitudes towards women were much different. An unfortunate title given to female performers which I'm sure most people probably wished never existed in the first place.

I'm also hoping they are looking into changing that ridiculous butterfly championship. I don't even understand how anyone could think that was a good idea. But, again, that's just my personal take on the matter.
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Jan 17 2016, 09:38:34 AM
The jump to main roster is key, and this is where I think they'll garner the most success: she should be built up as the female John Cena.
I'll have to hate her if that happens. =-D
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The problem with Rousey that I see coming eventually with her there is who is a legit equal to her? WIth Lesnar, there's a ton of guys he can work with and several of whom you can say a nearly as tough as him. Before the Mania match, Taker would have been looked at as tougher than Lesnar, Cena might be in that list too. With Rousey, who is near her level? Sasha? Please, Sasha can't even get on the actual ppv in her own hometown. So Charlotte then?

The issue is the women's roster is very small and are not given the chances to shine as much as the men are. Rousey would only have a good one year run if she was a full time wrestler, which I doubt she'd agree to do. At best, she'll have half a dozen matches and that would be it.

I'm speculating a bit here because we've never seen a person like Rousey, a legit fighter who is a woman in WWE. She could make women's wrestling in WWE much better and believable, but I have a hard time believe WWE would keep that serious tone with the women after she eventually left to go back to UFC.
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Jan 17 2016, 03:48:28 PM
The problem with Rousey that I see coming eventually with her there is who is a legit equal to her?
I wouldnt necessarily say that's a problem. Since she lost to Holly Holm some of her mystique has faded, but yes, Rousey coming to WWE she would be viewed as a large threat. So, let her run through the division and start a winning streak. Then when someone does finally beat Rousey they come out looking great.

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The problem with Rousey that I see coming eventually with her there is who is a legit equal to her?
I wouldnt necessarily say that's a problem. Since she lost to Holly Holm some of her mystique has faded, but yes, Rousey coming to WWE she would be viewed as a large threat. So, let her run through the division and start a winning streak. Then when someone does finally beat Rousey they come out looking great.
That'd be great. I guess my concern is the hyping that her presence will change the way women's wrestling is in WWE.

Maybe that'll happen when Vince instigates her into a shoot wrestling fight on a plane ride like when Kofi Kingston got his first real push in that Orton feud.
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https://www.facebook.com/AAWPro/videos/917945288295370/

I'll admit this gave me a good chuckle. :laugh:
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Jan 18 2016, 11:14:50 AM
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I'll admit this gave me a good chuckle. :laugh:
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Jan 18 2016, 11:14:50 AM
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I'll admit this gave me a good chuckle. :laugh:
We know what Cesaro's gonna do when he returns.
Plus, lol at the guy frantically selling an unintentional leg sweep.
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Ric Flair says that while he acknowledges his WWE employment discourages him from seriously criticizing them on his podcast, he doesn’t have much bad to say about them anyway. In an interview with The Miami Herald, The Nature Boy says the “mortifying” list of injured wrestlers is reason for critics to cut WWE some slack.

“[Podcasts] can be very lucrative,” Flair said. “I’m heading down to do one right now with Chris Jericho. It’s fun, and you learn form them. My problem is I can’t critique the [WWE] show, because my daughter’s on the show, and I’m still actively working for the company. The other guys who do podcasts can critique the show, but I wouldn’t be caught dead doing that.

Actually, I don’t have anything negative to say about it anyway,” Flair continued, “but if there was something I thought, I couldn’t possibly say it, because I would basically be cracking on the hand that feeds me. I don’t feel like there’s anything negative on the show anyways… If anyone really took a look at the injuries on our roster right now, it’s mortifying. Seth Rollins, John Cena, Randy Orton, Cesaro, [Daniel Bryan, Tyson Kidd]. A lot of guys to lose. Rusev is hurt right now, but I don’t know to what extent. Sasha’s hurt. Paige has got a concussion. It’s a lot going on.”

With so many pro wrestlers suffering some serious injuries, Flair is asked about his daughter’s career as a wrestler in WWE. Here’s what the 16-time champ had to say:

“Believe it or not guys, it’s not because of me,” Flair noted. “She’s a better athlete than I ever was all day long. She’s done a fabulous job. Her work ethic is second to none. She works out everyday. She’d rather be dead than miss a workout. She’s on tour in India right now for the week. I’m not sure what the training facilities are like there, but I guarantee you, if there’s a gym in New Delhi, she will find it.

“She had a lot of choices,” he said. “She picked volleyball, but she could have done any Division I sport. Track & field, too.”

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/ric-flair-speaks-on-charlotte-podcast-more/
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Stone Cold Steve Austin, who was forced to retire due to neck problems in 2003, recently spoke on the injuries currently plaguing WWE’s roster. In an interview on Jim Ross’ Ross Report podcast, Austin went into detail on the issue of injuries – both his, and the current roster’s.

“Man, I think there’s a direct correlation with how the talent works in the ring today.” Austin said of the large amount of WWE wrestlers currently on the injured list. “The WWE guys, they’re doing more high risk stuff, they’re working at a faster pace, and it just lends itself to injury. And that’s not me saying, ‘hey, you’re working wrong’. I’m just saying I believe the product is sped up so much that the guys and gals are just working at a very frenetic pace and without any offseason, it takes a toll on the body.”

“I never thought about moving on and I look back and think if 2003 was my last match, I guess I retired [at] about 38 [years old]. Man, you talk about leaving a lot on the table or leaving a lot in the ring, I, probably, Jim, would have liked to at least get to 42 and maybe 45,” Austin said. “But I never really had an exit strategy, but that being said, had I remained completely healthy, had I maybe lived a little bit slower, and that wasn’t really an issue, but just the fact [that] my neck was the bottom line, that happened, so I got out when I did. But it would have been nice to last until about 42 and then went from there.”

Stone Cold also talked about two dream opponents of his: Brock Lesnar and CM Punk. Austin explained why Lesnar and Punk would be his picks for guys he wishes he could have wrestled, but can’t due to his injury-forced retirement.

“Well, probably Brock right now, just because [of] where Brock’s at. He’s on [the] top of his game, he’s in his prime, and CM Punk would still have been in his prime too, but he’s out of the game. Obviously, he’s doing great things with his MMA training [and] he was always in outstanding shape, but just because he’s not in the [professional wrestling] scene anymore [he is not a fantasy booking option].”

“I think me and CM Punk would have sold a lot of tickets together. And again, he gets it, I get it. It would be one entertaining program.” Austin added, “he’s smart. His psychology is great. He’s easy in the ring, meaning his physicality, everything looks good [and] nothing hurts. Again, I would think me and him would be right on the same page psychologically and we’d be able to weave a hell of a tale. And also, depending on how you played this, whether he’s heel and I’m baby [or] he’s baby and I’m heel or it’s just two guys out there, you see both guys whether it’s him on the dark side, he [has] got a tremendous mean streak, as does ‘Stone Cold’. On the fire side, he had tremendous fire, as did ‘Stone Cold’, so both guys are bringing everything to the table that you need. And also great storytellers and talkers, so all of the elements would be there.”

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/steve-austin-on-wwes-injury-problems-wishing-he-could-have-faced-lesnar-cm-punk/
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WWE World Heavyweight Champion Roman Reigns spoke with The Times of India to promote this past week’s live events in New Delhi, where he replaced John Cena as the face of the tour. He was asked how it feels to fill the shoes of the world’s most popular wrestler.

“It’s a great honor. John Cena has been the standard-bearer of professional wrestling for the past 10-12 years, and to follow in his footsteps is a great opportunity. I just want to give my best and represent my family and my people,” said Reigns.

“It’s unfortunate that John couldn’t be here because of the injury and we all hope he will be fit again soon. I for one, can’t wait to square off against him. But then, you have to remember that I’m the reigning World Heavyweight Champion. There is a certain weight to that, a certain standard. Like John used to say, ‘The champ is here and in the end, that’s all that matters!'”

Reigns was also asked if he expects Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson to challenge him for the title at WrestleMania 32.

“I expect The Rock would want to keep his pretty face intact for Hollywood. He better stay away from me in the ring,” Reigns said. “But honestly, anybody who wants to get into the ring with me and take the world title, just try!”

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/roman-reigns-says-the-rock-better-stay-away-from-him-the-ring/
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Jan 7 2016, 09:39:04 PM
Oh bloody hell. Is the shelf big enough, as we've apparently gotta put Sasha Banks on it too.

Alex Riley
Cesaro
Daniel Bryan
Hideo Itami
John Cena
King Barrett
Konnor
Nikki Bella
Randy Orton
Rosa Mendes (pregnant)
Sasha Banks
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Sting
Tyson Kidd
William Regal
You might want to add Xavier's trombone to that list. ;)
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Jan 7 2016, 09:39:04 PM
Oh bloody hell. Is the shelf big enough, as we've apparently gotta put Sasha Banks on it too.

Alex Riley
Cesaro
Daniel Bryan
Hideo Itami
John Cena
King Barrett
Konnor
Nikki Bella
Randy Orton
Rosa Mendes (pregnant)
Sasha Banks
Seth Rollins
Sin Cara
Sting
Tyson Kidd
William Regal
You might want to add Xavier's trombone to that list. ;)
The trombone is on a different list. RIP

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A neurology specialist at UCLA recently evaluated Daniel Bryan, where he underwent a battery of tests to determine if he is fit to wrestle again. Bryan was given the the green light to return to WWE, according to the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Unfortunately, as of this writing, Bryan still has not been cleared by a WWE doctor due to his concussion history.

Bryan is ready to return to action as soon as WWE allows him to, if they ever do.


Source: http://www.sescoops.com/report-daniel-bryan-cleared-to-return-by-ucla-doctor/
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There have been reports going around for a few weeks that Vince McMahon has essentially given up on pushing Tyler Breeze just months after he made his debut on the main roster. According to a report at PWInsider.com, lack of support from the WWE chairman is not the only thing working against the self proclaimed Prince Pretty.

At a recent WWE TV taping, Breeze reportedly left early for an undisclosed reason. Once word around that he did not stay until the end of the taping, several people including management were talking about it being disrespectful and a presumptuous move by a main roster newcomer.

Hopefully this blows over sooner than later because Breeze proved himself to be a valuable talent while in NXT.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/update-on-tyler-breezes-backstage-heat/
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