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Topic Started: Oct 21 2013, 11:22:39 PM (30,512 Views)
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I always hated having to tie the ring ropes together like that. Made it look so stupid.

Why couldn't they have made it so we screw the turnbuckles into the ring post like they do IRL?
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The Miami Herald ran an interview with The Big Show today where he speaks on the new era of talent in WWE, and seems to hint that he’s contemplating retiring from in-ring action.

“I came in as the youngest in the locker-room by 10 years in 1995, and now I’m one of the old ones still out there,” said the former World Heavyweight Champion. “We’ve got a lot of young, new, great talent deserving of TV time; they’re building their brand. New storylines for them. It’s a changing of the guard.”

When asked about his role and future with WWE, Show commented that “all great things come to an end.” He indicated that he’s looking for projects outside of the the company, but that his “heart is with WWE.”

“I love helping the younger talent. I love representing WWE like with Make-A-Wish, Be a STAR, Special Olympics. I think I’ll always have a home in WWE,” he said. “I’ve had a great career and had a lot of fun. So whatever happens in the future, I’m gonna take it. If I get a phone call tomorrow, and Vince [McMahon] says, ‘Thank you very much. I appreciate everything you’ve done.’ Well, that said, I can hold my head high and go on and do other things.”

Big Show concluded by saying he’s thankful for still having his health, and being able to step into the ring every now and then to do what he loves.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/big-show-hints-at-retirement-all-great-things-come-to-an-end/
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Holy sh*t... Talk about athleticism! :shock:
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May 31 2016, 06:19:22 PM




Holy sh*t... Talk about athleticism! :shock:
I wouldn't be surprised if these two were currently the worlds best high flying cruiser weights. The shit they did i've never seen before in some of their reversals, fucking golden.
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Vader took to Twitter, harshly criticizing the sequence as a “memorized gymnastics routine” and added that it “saddens” the three-time WCW Heavyweight Champion “to see the direction wrestling is headed”.

Fucking Vader adding in two cents as if he was anything more than a gimmick n his return to wrestling and then criticises the athleticism of two junior wrestlers who pull of insane spots that very few people can achieve. Correct me or not, but wrestling is choreographed no? And this fucking loon has the balls to turn around and say it's a “memorized gymnastics routine.” What fucking banana boat did Vader get off since his last failed appearance in wrestling? He returned to face someone like Heath Slater in 2012 and this fad could of done with a stannis fucking stair lift just to get him to the ring that day.

People like Vader piss me off when they criticise wrestling for all the wrong reasons instead of pointing that criticism in the direction that deserves it. Unfortunately for him this match wasn't one of them.
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From what I gather, the wrestlers work off the crowd reaction and decide what spots to do next depending on how the crowd has responded to previous spots in the match. Savage and Steamboat at Wrestlemania 3 was entirely choreographed for months prior to the actual match, thus there was little to no communication or changes done to tailor the match to the live audience.

Haven't seen this match people are talking about, probably never will, but Vader's opinion is Vader's opinion and rarely do I ever hear him say anything critical about anything.
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Vader's criticism reminds me of the stuff said about John Morrison that his matches and the things he would do looked like he was just performing fancy moves that didnt look like they hurt, rather than looking like he was fighting or wrestling his opponent. I think it just comes down to different styles and different opinions.

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Vaudevillians already are losing on main event. Welcome to the main roster guys
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Despite reports that Sasha Banks is expected to compete for the Women’s Championship at SummerSlam this year, it sounds like Vince McMahon isn’t her biggest fan. Dave Meltzer of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Banks is getting a reputation with WWE management for being injury-prone. Meltzer says that Vince has told officials on numerous occasions that he believes she only knows one speed in the ring: all out.

Months ago, Vince was reportedly comparing Banks and Daniel Bryan to company management. Bryan’s career was cut short at the age of 34 due to numerous concussions.

Banks returned to in-ring action over the weekend at WWE live events after reportedly suffering a concussion at the May 15th house show in Charlottesville, VA. Meltzer sticks by his original report that her injury was a “significant” concussion, which happened after a freak accident where referee Darrick Moore accidentally hit Sasha with a knee to the head.


Source: http://www.sescoops.com/report-vince-mcmahon-feels-sasha-banks-is-too-injury-prone/



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So a ref knees Sasha in the head and suddenly she's labeled as "injury prone"? What?! :chan:
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So a ref knees Sasha in the head and suddenly she's labeled as "injury prone"? What?! :chan:
Agreed... Cena has been sidelined plenty of times, and yet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone backstage who considers him ''injury prone''. Not to mention how the referee was the one who caused the accident that lead to Sasha's concussion to begin with. Which means it couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that she ''goes all out'' in the ring or whatever the hell it is Vince McMahon is drivelling on about. It honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense and, if anything, feels more like an excuse not to give Sasha the opportunity she so rightly deserves. :roll:
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So a ref knees Sasha in the head and suddenly she's labeled as "injury prone"? What?! :chan:
Agreed... Cena has been sidelined plenty of times, and yet you'd be hard pressed to find anyone backstage who considers him ''injury prone''. Not to mention how the referee was the one who caused the accident that lead to Sasha's concussion to begin with. Which means it couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that she ''goes all out'' in the ring or whatever the hell it is Vince McMahon is drivelling on about. It honestly doesn't make a whole lot of sense and, if anything, feels more like an excuse not to give Sasha the opportunity she so rightly deserves. :roll:
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I don't feel like digging up the WWE 2K16 thread, sorry for my laziness...

Any members care to take part in my own "Brand Split" I will do on my 2K16 Universe mode? I finally got it going where it is somewhat entertaining to see the outcomes of the all simulated matches (Crazy that it's been parity booking even in the game too). Let me know if interested and I will set it up.

Back to the real use of this thread... Anyone else see Balor coming in to help Cena battle the Club and get a rub from Cena in the process?
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Vader's criticism reminds me of the stuff said about John Morrison that his matches and the things he would do looked like he was just performing fancy moves that didnt look like they hurt, rather than looking like he was fighting or wrestling his opponent. I think it just comes down to different styles and different opinions.
The view of Vader expressing his opinion on the dislike of certain wrestling styles is fine. Except it wasn't his view on this match at all, he was publicly criticising the way wrestling is headed by aiming that criticism at this match when he could of voiced an opinion on so many different occasions in the industry of the WWE for example. You don't criticise a certain wrestling style and then label it the reason wrestling as a whole is starting to change for the worse.

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From what I gather, the wrestlers work off the crowd reaction and decide what spots to do next depending on how the crowd has responded to previous spots in the match.
The fact you stated you haven't watched the match means you can't express a view on this topic of "working of the crowd" because they did. Every match is choreographed before the wrestlers compete in front of a live audience, crowd working just comes into play through out the match itself. You're missing the point of Vaders own comment and wouldn't understand the pretence behind it if you didn't watch the match.

Splitting down "A worked Gymnastics routine" and then taking the quote and commenting about it as if you knew exactly what the argument was all about then giving an example of one out of a thousand matches that were choreographed (As if that was the issue.) isn't a good basis to hail Vaders criticism.

The insane spots in the match were so well pulled off you could clearly tell how choreographed the match was. I admit sometimes both men didn't really sell each move well enough before moving onto the next, but it sure kept the pace going. You can even hear them talking to each other about what they're going to do next because there was no commentary behind it before working off the crowd and their cheers towards the match itself.

What i find humorous is Vader will sit there on the internet and comment, but it's the crowd that will tell you how good the match was. So any void criticism from someone who think's "they know it all" gets shat on when the audience support the match and heavily get behind both wrestlers during it.

When people like Vader and Jim Cornette start to voice an expression to the extent of real issues in wrestling then i will sit down and listen. But people like Vader hold true to their own glory days and trying to wash up on junior wrestlers who can achieve a better form than most main stream "talent" indited to the cause of bigger brands like the WWE, well it is a shit move to try and make any point he was trying to and it's even worse people will get behind Vader because of who he is.
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Vader's criticism reminds me of the stuff said about John Morrison that his matches and the things he would do looked like he was just performing fancy moves that didnt look like they hurt, rather than looking like he was fighting or wrestling his opponent. I think it just comes down to different styles and different opinions.
The view of Vader expressing his opinion on the dislike of certain wrestling styles is fine. Except it wasn't his view on this match at all, he was publicly criticising the way wrestling is headed by aiming that criticism at this match when he could of voiced an opinion on so many different occasions in the industry of the WWE for example. You don't criticise a certain wrestling style and then label it the reason wrestling as a whole is starting to change for the worse.

Vader comes from a time when wrestling was a lot slower paced than it is today and in his mind he's seeing all these flips, dives, and high workrates and the results may be great shows, but eventually turn into injuries that last 6-9 months and destroy any pushes guys may be receiving and the fans lose out on a hot act. If you watched WWE from January to April, they were missing about half a dozen MAJOR stars, two who had to retire. The result was total apathy from the fans, which, while not entirely the fault of the injuries, was still a major contributing factor.

That's probably his thinking. Can't say I agree with that train of thought because the match quality is so much better compared to anything WWF or WCW produced in the 90's.

But that's all a give and take because while the matches may be better than ever, the promos and storylines are about as bad as I've ever seen them.
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May 31 2016, 06:19:22 PM




Holy sh*t... Talk about athleticism! :shock:
Dave Meltzer rated this match **** 3/4 stars. I'm still undecided about whether or not this might be a little too generous, yet, at the same time, a part of me can't help but wonder what else they could have possibly done to make this bout any better, especially given that it only lasted approximately 16-17 minutes. I feel that they accomplished quite a great deal for such a short time frame, even if the storytelling was slightly lacking (not that I agree with this notion, as I personally thought there was enough there to keep things engaging).

Feel free to share your thoughts on the matter. :)
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Cody Rhodes is scheduled to face Mike Bennett on 8/26 in Pittsfield, MA for the Northeast Wrestling promotion. Bennett was one of the names on Cody's list of post-WWE opponents he wanted to face.
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