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Aug 24 2016, 12:35:24 PM
Huh, almost seems like Miz might've been legit triggered here. :?

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WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart is speaking out once again about Seth Rollins being reckless in the ring.

Over the past year, Rollins has injured some of the top stars in the business. John Cena suffered a badly broken nose last summer when Seth Rollins kneed him in the face on Monday Night RAW. Days later at Night of Champions, Rollins ended Sting’s career by powerbombing him into the turnbuckles. Finn Balor will be out of action until 2017 after taking a powerbomb from Rollins outside the ring. Bret Hart says he has great respect for Seth, but he needs to improve his technique immediately before someone gets killed.

In a statement issued to WrestleZone’s Nick Hausman, Hart gave his thoughts on Seth Rollins injuring Finn Balor at SummerSlam.

“I take no great pleasure in saying ‘I told you so,’ but if you’re a professional wrestler and you keep hurting opponents and or yourself, clearly you’re doing it wrong. I wrestled a very realistic and physical style and not once in 23 yrs did I ever hurt one opponent ever.

Seth Rollins needs to improve his technique and become the safest wrestler in the business. I have great respect for Seth. I believe he’ll improve and hopefully stop hurting the talent before someone gets killed.

Wrestlers have to trust one another. If a wrestler holds the life of another wrestler in his hands for the sake of his family, wife or children you plain and simply cannot drop it! I saw this coming, if anything WWE producers are negligent for not speaking up about it to him already, instead they’re probably gushing with joy, slapping him on the back telling him “great job!”

Bill Goldberg was similar. When I think of Samoa Joe nearly killing Tyson Kidd, then see him continuing to use that deadly finish of his, I just shake my head. It’s not real, it’s only supposed to look real, wrestlers are not crash test dummies!”

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/bret-hart-seth-rollins-needs-to-work-safer-before-someone-gets-killed/



Well, there it is folks... The response to the incident we all knew was coming. :roll:
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Aug 24 2016, 03:42:51 PM
Meanwhile, adding to the joke, I remember when, IRL, Batista got fined $500,000 merely for blading in a match, and Jericho, the referee, and the agent for that match all got fined $10,000 a piece for letting it happen as well (though Batista ended up paying for all their fines for that incident). :roll:
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Aug 24 2016, 07:05:25 PM
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Aug 24 2016, 12:35:24 PM
Huh, almost seems like Miz might've been legit triggered here. :?

Holy fucking shit! What a fucking promo. If he was genuinely pissed off then i'm honestly not surprised he went all out the way he did there and if he wasn't, then fuck me he has some stellar charisma and acting to fool a lot of people into thinking he was. See it's this kind of shit that would want to make me watch Raw. But these promo's are few and far between and i cannot sit there and watch child's play on television in a sport like this because it's embarrassing. What The Miz did just there was even better than some of Heymans vocal intuitions and it's that kind of shit that would make me a fan of him if only he could go all the way and actually perform in the ring.


This promo literally just put him on the map to be supported by a lot of people. I for one have just taken an interest into seeing what the aftermath of this might be.
I think this is yet another prime example of just how great some of these guys could be if they were more unleashed and unscripted with their promos. Miz actually first started impressing me a year ago on Tough Enough, when he replaced Hogan as one of the judges, and single handedly became the MVP of the whole show by pretty much showcasing how surprisingly intelligent and knowledgeable he is in regards to the psychology of the industry. Seriously, listening to him talk, I'd put him up there among the likes of Raven in terms of understanding the business on a deeper level than most, based solely on how he spoke when compared to how you'll hear lots of the other wrestlers speak in similar out-of-character scenarios and shoot interviews and such.

And hell, speaking of Tough Enough, he wasn't the only one to show a level of passion and charisma being held back by the script, even the robotic Byron Saxton proved that he actually does possess a personality on that show, when he's not on as tight a leash as he is on a show like Raw, and generally in a more unscripted environment. And from many reports, the same case can be said for many on the roster at that. Roman Reigns is a guy people point out to actually being good on the mic back before he got the push to WWE and was forced to memorize scripts, and Fromage recently posted how the equally robotic Big Cass, on another one of WWE's less scripted shows, also proved he has a personality when you don't control his every sentence to the word.

I can only imagine what the environment would be like in today's WWE if more guys were allowed to really let loose out there, going more on guidelines than written scripts, and really given the freedom to truly express themselves and explore their characters, the way guys like Rock and Austin used to be allowed to do back in the day. Miz is just one example of many who I could see being quite possibly a mega-star given the opportunity in such an environment, and I can only imagine who else would really excel if given the chance to go off script.
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WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart is speaking out once again about Seth Rollins being reckless in the ring.

Over the past year, Rollins has injured some of the top stars in the business. John Cena suffered a badly broken nose last summer when Seth Rollins kneed him in the face on Monday Night RAW. Days later at Night of Champions, Rollins ended Sting’s career by powerbombing him into the turnbuckles. Finn Balor will be out of action until 2017 after taking a powerbomb from Rollins outside the ring. Bret Hart says he has great respect for Seth, but he needs to improve his technique immediately before someone gets killed.

In a statement issued to WrestleZone’s Nick Hausman, Hart gave his thoughts on Seth Rollins injuring Finn Balor at SummerSlam.

“I take no great pleasure in saying ‘I told you so,’ but if you’re a professional wrestler and you keep hurting opponents and or yourself, clearly you’re doing it wrong. I wrestled a very realistic and physical style and not once in 23 yrs did I ever hurt one opponent ever.

Seth Rollins needs to improve his technique and become the safest wrestler in the business. I have great respect for Seth. I believe he’ll improve and hopefully stop hurting the talent before someone gets killed.

Wrestlers have to trust one another. If a wrestler holds the life of another wrestler in his hands for the sake of his family, wife or children you plain and simply cannot drop it! I saw this coming, if anything WWE producers are negligent for not speaking up about it to him already, instead they’re probably gushing with joy, slapping him on the back telling him “great job!”

Bill Goldberg was similar. When I think of Samoa Joe nearly killing Tyson Kidd, then see him continuing to use that deadly finish of his, I just shake my head. It’s not real, it’s only supposed to look real, wrestlers are not crash test dummies!”

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/bret-hart-seth-rollins-needs-to-work-safer-before-someone-gets-killed/



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Aug 24 2016, 08:50:40 PM
That sucks. I'm surprised we don't hear about this with wrestlers more often because they are some of the most orange skinned people I've ever seen.

Hope Ms. Undertaker beats this.
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Aug 24 2016, 02:06:32 PM
Hence why, in contrast, The Miz's reaction and comments felt a little harsh, because I got the impression it was something that he made up right there on the spot.
With how scripted the show is I think Miz may have been briefed to go to that area, but then he just went there and ran with it. I understand what you mean when you see Miz's comments as harsh considering Daniel was a massive fan favorite and had to heart-breakingly retire early. So it does seem like a cheap shot, below the belt comment, but what stands out to me that makes me fine with this whole verbal battle, as well as give me more respect for Miz (as others have said), is that Miz is the heel in all this. So the heel said something heelish to try and get some heat.

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When I think of Samoa Joe nearly killing Tyson Kidd, then see him continuing to use that deadly finish of his, I just shake my head. It’s not real, it’s only supposed to look real, wrestlers are not crash test dummies!”[/i]

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/bret-hart-seth-rollins-needs-to-work-safer-before-someone-gets-killed/

Yeah we knew it was coming, but I think at the end of the day what it comes down to is the move itself rather than who is performing it. Whether its Rollins or even Bret himself I think doing that buckle bomb can only be done one way. I dont think Balor could really do much to push himself off during the move, so it was up to Rollins to use strength and power to propel Balor forward. The downside is Balor cant see behind him so he doesnt know when exactly he's going to hit the barricade. Cena, Sting and Balor all just seemed like freak accidents. If anything they should stop doing the buckle bomb rather than condemning Seth.

Oh, and I wanted to mention that by all accounts everything I heard was that it was a freak accident in regards to Tyson Kidd's injury. Bret shouldnt be putting that on Joe.
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The WON reports that Finn Balor’s injury has nixed plans for a Triple Threat match at Hell in a Cell between Balor, Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho. The site reports that Balor was scheduled to face Owens for the Universal Title at Clash of Champions on September 25th, which would have ended in such a way that set up the three-way match at the October PPV.

Balor’s injury forced him to give up the championship and as announced on Raw, a Fatal Four Way match will take place next week between Owens, Big Cass, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns. Rollins and Reigns were planned to be kept out of the title picture for a few months; it isn’t known whether Balor’s injury has changed those plans.


Dave Meltzer provides an interesting look at what might have happened if Balor wasnt injured. I like what I see there as its certainly different. I wonder if this raises Kevin Owens stock to win this Monday. It would be kind of an underwhelming title win with not much build up, but would be cool if they went with it.

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The WON reports that Finn Balor’s injury has nixed plans for a Triple Threat match at Hell in a Cell between Balor, Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho. The site reports that Balor was scheduled to face Owens for the Universal Title at Clash of Champions on September 25th, which would have ended in such a way that set up the three-way match at the October PPV.

Balor’s injury forced him to give up the championship and as announced on Raw, a Fatal Four Way match will take place next week between Owens, Big Cass, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns. Rollins and Reigns were planned to be kept out of the title picture for a few months; it isn’t known whether Balor’s injury has changed those plans.


Dave Meltzer provides an interesting look at what might have happened if Balor wasnt injured. I like what I see there as its certainly different. I wonder if this raises Kevin Owens stock to win this Monday. It would be kind of an underwhelming title win with not much build up, but would be cool if they went with it.
I believe it does. I was thinking who else could take the belt and run with it for a bit and the only name that came to mind was Kevin Owens. I think Reigns is too soon after the scandal, Rollins is meh, Jericho has no use holding the belt, and Sheamus/Cesaro are having a nonsensical best of 7 feud. It really leaves nobody else other than KO to win the title and honestly, KO with a title is better than him not having a title. Having a title fits his characters insecurity perfectly and there's enough guys on the Raw roster that can beef with a heel KO.
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The sad thing about Miz's promo on Talking Smack is that it's probably just going to lead to him dropping the belt to Kalisto or some shit.

That or be totally forgotten like Ryback's injury promo he did years ago and lead to absolutely nothing.
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Well not necessarily. I remember some stories about Vince where he likes it when wrestlers stand up for themselves, which is essentially what Miz was doing. One such example comes from Jericho's last book where Vince was really ragging on Kofi Kingston on a particular flight. Once the flight had landed Jericho told Kofi to stand up to Vince and to fight him if he had to. So Kofi did and he and Vince traded words until Vince tried a takedown on Kofi, and then they wrestled around for a bit. In the end Jericho said that with Kofi doing that he earned more respect from Vince.

The opposite situation is awhile back when Batista and Melina were secretly shagging while she was still supposedly in a relationship with John Morrison. But when he found out Morrison did nothing, never addressed Batista about it, etc. Then Vince heard he had done nothing and looked at him as weak and "not a man", I suppose.

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Aug 24 2016, 12:35:24 PM
Huh, almost seems like Miz might've been legit triggered here. :?

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Aug 14 2016, 03:16:05 PM
WWE is reportedly considering to include LGBT characters into the product. I'm sure you know what I think and here's what I hate most about this: it's way too forced. When Goldust debuted as a gay or bi molester, it was meant to be a joke and be a creepy thing he did to freak out his opponents. Billy and Chuck weren't actually gay, Rico was... something, and Brock and Kurt never kissed on live TV.
Y'know maybe that Johnny Knockout guy who said in his pre-squash match interview "I like big sweaty men" was WWE's way of following through on this. :shrug:

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More information is coming out regarding Chris Jericho and Brock Lesnar’s backstage altercation from SummerSlam. While Lesnar was still in the ring and Randy Orton was laying in a pool of blood, Jericho wanted to know if what transpired was exactly how it was supposed to go down. Jericho asked Michael Hayes if Lesnar ‘went into business for himself’ and Hayes gave him an answer that implied Lesnar might have gone farther than he was supposed to.

When Brock came through the curtain, Jericho got in his face and wanted to know what the hell happened out there. Brock essentially told him to screw off. They got in each others faces and started shoving each other. Brock allegedly kissed Jericho on the forehead and said something along the lines of, “Either kiss me or hit me.” Triple H first tried breaking things up and Vince McMahon wound up getting involved and putting an end to it.

The following night at RAW, people were talking about what a badass Jericho was for stepping up to Lesnar and there wasn’t any heat on him over the incident.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/reaction-to-jericho-lesnars-backstage-fight-michelle-mccool-cancer-scare/

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While WWE won’t medically clear him to wrestle, Daniel Bryan may be able to make big bucks wrestling elsewhere. In the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer reported on Daniel Bryan’s current contract status with WWE.

Now that Bryan is back to work for the company as the SmackDown General Manager, time on his contract is ticking, which means at some point he’ll be able to leve and work elsewhere. It’s very likely that Bryan would be paid more to wrestle main events for a company like NJPW than he would for his GM role on SmackDown. If he were to leave the company, he would also take home more money from his merchandise than the small percentage he gets from his official WWE merch.

Different doctors have reportedly given Bryan different answers as to whether he could wrestle again. Bryan is currently 35 years old, and most wrestlers compete well into their 40’s. Bryan announced his retirement in February after undergoing concussion testing.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/report-daniel-bryan-could-earn-more-money-outside-of-wwe/
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When Brock came through the curtain, Jericho got in his face and wanted to know what the hell happened out there. Brock essentially told him to screw off. They got in each others faces and started shoving each other. Brock allegedly kissed Jericho on the forehead and said something along the lines of, “Either kiss me or hit me.” Triple H first tried breaking things up and Vince McMahon wound up getting involved and putting an end to it.
It's a good thing Triple H and Vince got involved to pull Jericho off of Lesnar because if things had gone on to escalate it's very likely Lesnar would have gotten... IT.

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When Brock came through the curtain, Jericho got in his face and wanted to know what the hell happened out there. Brock essentially told him to screw off. They got in each others faces and started shoving each other. Brock allegedly kissed Jericho on the forehead and said something along the lines of, “Either kiss me or hit me.” Triple H first tried breaking things up and Vince McMahon wound up getting involved and putting an end to it.
It's a good thing Triple H and Vince got involved to pull Jericho off of Lesnar because if things had gone on to escalate it's very likely Lesnar would have gotten... IT.
Yeah, I'm sure Jericho's excessive use of the term ''stupid idiot'' would have downed Brock in a matter of seconds. :y2j2:
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