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Nov 24 2016, 06:28:42 AM
I don't doubt that, and I can see why he initially got over 20 years ago. What I don't understand is how he's still getting the reactions he's receiving now, considering how much "smarter" today's audience is compared to yesteryear, when, ignoring Roman for a second and looking at other similar examples, other guys who had similarly successfully gotten themselves over with fans, guys such as Batista (another guy who, while lacking in certain areas, is about a million times better both in the ring and on the mic than Goldberg), can't make a comeback without getting booed out of the building.
I would say a large part of Goldberg's reactions are from nostalgia. So the old school fans chant Goldberg during his entrance and that helps make him seem like a legit star to today's crowds. I would say that Batista was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. The crowd wanted Daniel Bryan and to hell with everyone else.

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Nov 24 2016, 02:41:37 PM
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Nov 24 2016, 06:28:42 AM
I don't doubt that, and I can see why he initially got over 20 years ago. What I don't understand is how he's still getting the reactions he's receiving now, considering how much "smarter" today's audience is compared to yesteryear, when, ignoring Roman for a second and looking at other similar examples, other guys who had similarly successfully gotten themselves over with fans, guys such as Batista (another guy who, while lacking in certain areas, is about a million times better both in the ring and on the mic than Goldberg), can't make a comeback without getting booed out of the building.
I would say a large part of Goldberg's reactions are from nostalgia. So the old school fans chant Goldberg during his entrance and that helps make him seem like a legit star to today's crowds. I would say that Batista was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. The crowd wanted Daniel Bryan and to hell with everyone else.
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Nov 24 2016, 02:41:37 PM
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Nov 24 2016, 06:28:42 AM
I don't doubt that, and I can see why he initially got over 20 years ago. What I don't understand is how he's still getting the reactions he's receiving now, considering how much "smarter" today's audience is compared to yesteryear, when, ignoring Roman for a second and looking at other similar examples, other guys who had similarly successfully gotten themselves over with fans, guys such as Batista (another guy who, while lacking in certain areas, is about a million times better both in the ring and on the mic than Goldberg), can't make a comeback without getting booed out of the building.
I would say a large part of Goldberg's reactions are from nostalgia. So the old school fans chant Goldberg during his entrance and that helps make him seem like a legit star to today's crowds. I would say that Batista was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. The crowd wanted Daniel Bryan and to hell with everyone else.
That's exactly it: Bryan was so hot anybody not him was going to get booed. Batista was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It didn't help either that WWE was building him up as a beast and within 5 minutes of him in the Rumble he was panting like a fat man in a marathon.

Nostalgia is a big part of why Goldberg is being received so positively, people been eatin' the 'member berries and want to see Goldberg start another 170 match winning streak. Why he gets cheered today while Roman gets booed is a complex issue, but I'll give my thoughts as to why. Firstly, Goldberg is an old man now and people aren't expecting to see him doing dives and other crazy moves, so we'll take what we can get from him in his limited appearances which leads me to another point: we're not going to be seeing Goldberg ALL THE TIME.

With Roman, we get saddled with this pretty boy every week who still thinks it's 2013 and he's the only guy left in the Shield; Roman is portrayed like he is a One Man Shield. Basically, there's been no improvement or evolution with Reigns gimmick/character outside of him dropping the storybook fairy tale promos and sufferin' succotash. His biggest improvements have been his actual work in matches, he's added some moves, but it's his match quality that's gotten way better from last year when he had no business main eventing ppv's, let alone one with Brock Lesnar at Wrestle fucking Mania. Where Roman can really, REALLY improve his character is by turning heel.

Don't mention Roman and heel turn where Vince McMahon can hear it or he'll have a heart attack.

The reactions that Roman has been getting for 2 years now have warranted a heel turn, but Vince thought Roman was the next John Cena and refused and the more fans didn't want Roman, the harder Vince pushed him. The hate for Roman isn't so much because of Roman himself, it's the dissatisfaction of fans with WWE not listening to what they want to see most.

Goldberg was not a Vince McMahon creation, he's not been seen for a while, and he still comes off as a legit badass... albeit an older one with a son he pulls out of the crowd like a weapon in WWF No Mercy for N64. Roman, as a babyface, comes off like Steve Urkel as Morgan from Walking Dead... it just doesn't jive man and the thing of it is, Goldberg is legit over babyface which is tough to find these days.
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In other news, Becky Lynch has announced that she is pregnant.

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In other news, Becky Lynch has announced that she is pregnant.

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Stick with the Bobby Heenan jokes.

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Goldberg is officially back on the WWE roster after defeating Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series, but that wasn’t always WWE’s plan for the former undefeated WCW World Champion.

According to a new report by Dave Meltzer the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, WWE’s original plan to have Goldberg lose in a one-off match against Lesnar was changed due to the recent decline in WWE’s TV viewership. The company decided that bringing Goldberg back for more than just that one match would be good for their viewership in 2017.

It sounds like now that Goldberg is back, that also means the plans original for Lesnar vs. Shane McMahon at WrestleMania 33 have been scrapped. Some in company management wanted to stay on course for Lesnar vs. Shane, but Vince McMahon ultimately made the call to start building to a Lesnar-Goldberg rematch at WrestleMania.

According to the report by Meltzer, Goldberg negotiated “phenomenal single-event deal” and is willing to wrestle any time for paydays like that.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/backstage-news-on-why-wwe-signed-goldberg/
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Goldberg is officially back on the WWE roster after defeating Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series, but that wasn’t always WWE’s plan for the former undefeated WCW World Champion.

According to a new report by Dave Meltzer the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, WWE’s original plan to have Goldberg lose in a one-off match against Lesnar was changed due to the recent decline in WWE’s TV viewership. The company decided that bringing Goldberg back for more than just that one match would be good for their viewership in 2017.

It sounds like now that Goldberg is back, that also means the plans original for Lesnar vs. Shane McMahon at WrestleMania 33 have been scrapped. Some in company management wanted to stay on course for Lesnar vs. Shane, but Vince McMahon ultimately made the call to start building to a Lesnar-Goldberg rematch at WrestleMania.

According to the report by Meltzer, Goldberg negotiated “phenomenal single-event deal” and is willing to wrestle any time for paydays like that.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/backstage-news-on-why-wwe-signed-goldberg/
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Goldberg is officially back on the WWE roster after defeating Brock Lesnar at Survivor Series, but that wasn’t always WWE’s plan for the former undefeated WCW World Champion.

According to a new report by Dave Meltzer the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, WWE’s original plan to have Goldberg lose in a one-off match against Lesnar was changed due to the recent decline in WWE’s TV viewership. The company decided that bringing Goldberg back for more than just that one match would be good for their viewership in 2017.

It sounds like now that Goldberg is back, that also means the plans original for Lesnar vs. Shane McMahon at WrestleMania 33 have been scrapped. Some in company management wanted to stay on course for Lesnar vs. Shane, but Vince McMahon ultimately made the call to start building to a Lesnar-Goldberg rematch at WrestleMania.

According to the report by Meltzer, Goldberg negotiated “phenomenal single-event deal” and is willing to wrestle any time for paydays like that.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/backstage-news-on-why-wwe-signed-goldberg/
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So, if Goldberg comes back after 12 years and beats Brock as decisively as he did, how are we supposed to believe that Lesnar can beat Goldberg at all? The only plausible outcome of a match between the two at Mania is Goldberg winning again because he's beat Brock twice now. If Brock wins, he has to beat Goldberg in such a way that he can't believably ever wrestle again.

Of course, that won't happen because Vince needs to make Roman look strong at SummerSlam or some other ppv Goldberg is willing to work.

Whatever the case, we know two people who aren't winning the Rumble this year.
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That guy directly over Kane's left shoulder looks exactly like a younger Kane would back in 1997.
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I'm glad they ditched the cape. A big red cape doesn't exactly scream 'menacing'.

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That guy directly over Kane's left shoulder looks exactly like a younger Kane would back in 1997.
Wait... are you trying to tell me Corporate Kane & Demon Kane actually ARE two different people!?! :oh:
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That guy directly over Kane's left shoulder looks exactly like a younger Kane would back in 1997.
Wait... are you trying to tell me Corporate Kane & Demon Kane actually ARE two different people!?! :oh:
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On the latest edition of the Talk Is Jericho podcast, Chris Jericho talked about the finish of the Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg match at Survivor Series. The former World Champion praised the match’s shock-value and called the idea “brilliant.”

“Everyone was shocked, everyone was surprised, but after thinking about it for a minute, I think it was actually a pretty brilliant finish,” he said.

Jericho feels that the 86-second Survivor Series match helped generate buzz while protecting both performers from a “plodding” longer match. Lesnar and Goldberg’s previous 13-minute match in 2004 was nearly universally panned in reviews.

“I loved the Goldberg finish. I think it was very smart,” Jericho said. “Had they gone out there for about a 10-minute match, and kind of been a little bit plodding, or maybe somebody blows up or whatever it may be, I don’t think it would have been as effective. It was a shock-value, water cooler moment. Everybody’s talking about it. It sets up for a huge main event rematch; and we have something to talk about, so I think it was a great idea.”

Jericho congratulated Lesnar and Goldberg on a successful match, and Goldberg on making an impressive comeback.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/chris-jericho-speaks-on-the-finish-of-goldberg-vs-lesnar-at-survivor-series/
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Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg was the shortest match at this year’s Survivor Series pay-per-view, and because of that WWE’s announcers were reportedly told to call the match differently. Dave Meltzer reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter this week that WWE instructed their announcers to call the main event “like a fight,” as opposed to how they called the rest of the card.

According to Meltzer, WWE’s goal was for the match to have an explosive MMA-style finish. The company reportedly felt that their audience is familiar enough with UFC that fans wouldn’t be disappointed by the quick match, especially if they present it more like a “fight” than how they presented the other matches. Before the show, announcers were instructed how to call the match differently to help WWE achieve their desired effect.

Goldberg is currently scheduled to take part in January’s 30-man Royal Rumble match, and is expected to have a rematch with Lesnar at WrestleMania 33 in April.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/report-wwe-gave-announcers-unique-instructions-for-goldberg-vs-lesnar-at-survivor-series/
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Brock Lesnar vs. Bill Goldberg was the shortest match at this year’s Survivor Series pay-per-view, and because of that WWE’s announcers were reportedly told to call the match differently. Dave Meltzer reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter this week that WWE instructed their announcers to call the main event “like a fight,” as opposed to how they called the rest of the card.

According to Meltzer, WWE’s goal was for the match to have an explosive MMA-style finish. The company reportedly felt that their audience is familiar enough with UFC that fans wouldn’t be disappointed by the quick match, especially if they present it more like a “fight” than how they presented the other matches. Before the show, announcers were instructed how to call the match differently to help WWE achieve their desired effect.

Goldberg is currently scheduled to take part in January’s 30-man Royal Rumble match, and is expected to have a rematch with Lesnar at WrestleMania 33 in April.

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/report-wwe-gave-announcers-unique-instructions-for-goldberg-vs-lesnar-at-survivor-series/
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Nov 24 2016, 06:28:42 AM
I don't doubt that, and I can see why he initially got over 20 years ago. What I don't understand is how he's still getting the reactions he's receiving now, considering how much "smarter" today's audience is compared to yesteryear, when, ignoring Roman for a second and looking at other similar examples, other guys who had similarly successfully gotten themselves over with fans, guys such as Batista (another guy who, while lacking in certain areas, is about a million times better both in the ring and on the mic than Goldberg), can't make a comeback without getting booed out of the building.
This is old but, I think (and still think) Goldberg fucking ruled. He brought such a no-nonsense intense attitude and was booked pretty much perfectly during the streak (until the end). Goldberg also never overstayed his welcome, he had a pretty short career for a big main event guy. I like Sid for a similar reason as Goldberg - yeah, he sucked as a wrestler but he brought an intense presence that barely anyone else was able to bring.

Wrestlers who can put on a really good match are a dime a dozen these days but a lot of them can kinda just seem like regular guys. A 3.5 star match on its own doesn't really do anything for me anymore. It makes guys like Goldberg who have a real presence stand out even more. A Goldberg match/segment is more "must-see TV" for me than a typical Seth Rollins match/segment and it's not even close.
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