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According to WWE's website, Braun's elbow was shattered so - after the surgery - he's now going to be out for up to six months.
Yeesh, tough break. :?
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May 15 2017, 04:55:44 PM
According to WWE's website, Braun's elbow was shattered so - after the surgery - he's now going to be out for up to six months.
Yeesh, tough break. :?
Oh you and your puns.

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May 15 2017, 06:04:11 PM
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May 15 2017, 04:55:44 PM
According to WWE's website, Braun's elbow was shattered so - after the surgery - he's now going to be out for up to six months.
Yeesh, tough break. :?
Oh you and your puns.
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May 15 2017, 04:55:44 PM
According to WWE's website, Braun's elbow was shattered so - after the surgery - he's now going to be out for up to six months.
Yeesh, tough break. :?
Oh you and your puns.
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May 15 2017, 04:55:44 PM
According to WWE's website, Braun's elbow was shattered so - after the surgery - he's now going to be out for up to six months.
Roman is an unsafe worker. Vince may want to look at punishing him with a love triangle feud involving Bayley and Bray Wyatt.

Lame joke aside, if this is not being used to make Roman look strong, I don't understand how it happened. Braun looked fine in the ppv match with Reigns, so did it happen when they had him run into the ambulance door?

No Braun on Raw makes the show boring as shit, which is a fucking travesty when you think that Raw has all three Shield guys, Kurt Angle as GM, Brock Lensar when he shows up, Samoa Joe, Balor, Miz, Neville, Aries, The Hardy's, several of the women, and Corey Graves on commentary. Raw has every fucking reason to be the better of the two shows, but it's not for some reason and that's a problem. There's no reason Raw should be getting sub 3.0's in the ratings, there's no reason the fans should be dead the last hour of the show, there's no excuse for garbage that we got in England last week, and there's no reason that one of the top two champions in the company is not on the show for less than once or twice a month.

I'm of the opinion that Raw is literally broken, about as broken of a show as WCW was a company halfway through the year 2000.
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May 16 2017, 02:38:52 AM
I'm of the opinion that Raw is literally broken, about as broken of a show as WCW was a company halfway through the year 2000.
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May 16 2017, 02:38:52 AM
I'm of the opinion that Raw is literally broken, about as broken of a show as WCW was a company halfway through the year 2000.
They still have a way to go before it gets that bad.

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WWE Hall of Famer and RAW General Manager Kurt Angle recently did a Q&A on his Facebook page.

Here are some highlights:

If he expects to wrestle again:

“Yes. I don’t know when, but I will wrestle again. It’s true!”

Roman Reigns’ potential:

“Yes, Roman is fine. He has a huge future too. Roman has potential to be “the face” of WWE. Let’s see how he pans out.”

His worst moment as a WWE wrestler:

“Continuously breaking my neck. 4 times in 2 1/2 years. I kept rushing back to WWE by convincing my own doctor to clear me and that I was ready to return. I wasn’t. That was tough. Kudos to WWE for not allowing that anymore. Now you have to be cleared by a WWE doctor and they are strict.”

Who he wants to see in the WWE Hall of Fame:

“Christian. Very underrated. He has consistently had the best matches, was a multi world champ and entertaining as hell. I love that guy.”

Source: http://www.sescoops.com/kurt-angle-qa-roman-reigns-mid-carder-with-main-event-potential-who-belongs-in-hof/
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May 16 2017, 01:52:16 PM
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I'm of the opinion that Raw is literally broken, about as broken of a show as WCW was a company halfway through the year 2000.
They still have a way to go before it gets that bad.
Yeah, Roman beating Brock hasn't happened yet. We get to watch that at next year's Mania.

But the ratings don't show they "have a way to go before it gets that bad" it's already here.
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Oh shit you guys, be careful. It's May 19th.


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May 19 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Oh shit you guys, be careful. It's May 19th.


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May 19 2017, 09:10:29 PM
This list was confusing. I was expecting a list of wrestlers that got heat from crowds not some list including peeps I can barely recall stirring up drama behind the curtain.
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May 19 2017, 09:10:29 PM
This list was confusing. I was expecting a list of wrestlers that got heat from crowds not some list including peeps I can barely recall stirring up drama behind the curtain.
lol, I was expecting the same. :P
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I just can't get over just how bizarro-land Jinder's win is. Think of all the guys who were legitimate stars in their day who never won the title. Hell, think of some of the guys nowadays who keep getting screwed over and passed up, despite being popular with the fans and incredible performers in their own right.

And then think of Jinder Mahal, who until he randomly won a random 6 man match filled with 6 random competitors for a random WWE title shot was nothing more than a fully fledged jobber who hadn't actually won a match nor done anything of significance to make himself stand out or get over with the fans in any way shape or form over the course of what seems like damn near a decade now. And this guy is now randomly the WWE Champion.

Like, I know not every champion has been great, but holy shit, has there ever been a worse candidate to hold the title? Like, with Jinder's win, what more excuse is there for people saying that someone like, say, Zack Ryder never has a chance to win the belt? And what more excuse is there for genuinely talented guys like Sami Zayn not being given the superstar treatment? Hell, why wasn't Luke Harper added to the title match at Mania? It'd make about a million times more sense and feel more logical and realistic than this fucking win does. What more excuse is there for just about anybody who's actually over with the crowd to be held back, like is almost always the case with WWE?

They literally just put the top belt on an actual fucking jobber. Hell, one of the other former 3MB members Heath Slater is still technically a fucking jobber, yet even he would look more credible with the belt, on account that he actually successfully managed to pull the crowd behind him at one point in time, something that Jinder Mahal has never legitimately done.

Seriously, this win is beyond baffling. The fact that the match even took place at all was already baffling, and that it was made the main event of a fucking PPV was even more baffling. But then he actually won on top of all of it? Just... what?! HUH?!

This win single handedly negates any and every single argument that anyone could make for anyone else not holding the title, because if a fucking actual jobber (this point can't be emphasized enough), a fucking loser like Jinder can win it, then there's literally no more excuse why anyone on the entire roster couldn't also win it, too. And thus, in one fell swoop, the WWE Championship has been instantly devalued to a degree that I don't believe it has at any other point in time ever devolved to. Like, fucking wow, dude...
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It's all about business. WWE has been doing quite well in India lately so they can capitalize further on that market by making a man of Indian descent their world champion and giving him a major push.

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May 22 2017, 07:41:51 PM
It's all about business. WWE has been doing quite well in India lately so they can capitalize further on that market by making a man of Indian descent their world champion and giving him a major push.
So then give him a push, but that doesn't mean give him the title, especially not immediately, and especially not when he was at the time a complete and total jobber. Hell, even when JBL was thrust into the main event scene in 2004 and given the belt as suddenly as it felt, even then, Bradshaw at that point at least wasn't a jobber, even if he hadn't done much outside of the midcard.

But Jinder never even played in the midcard, not for a second. He went from nothing, nobody, just another body to fill out a few minutes of a 3 hour long Raw to give a W to somebody we actually knew and cared about, and then immediately disappear again afterwards without so much as a second thought from a single person either in the arena or watching at home. That's all he was. Just someone on the roster who's sole contribution was literally that he existed. And now, he's the top champion of the entire company. Like, how about a gradual build? How about, maybe start off by giving him that feud for the US title, and let AJ tackle with Randy over the top belt for the time being? Maybe allow Jinder some time to grow, some time for the audience to actually get to know him, not just as a character, but as a performer.

'Cause really, what is Jinder Mahal's wrestling style, even? What are his signature moves? What is his finishing move? These are all questions that I legitimately don't know the answers to. And considering this is now the top champion in the company, that's pretty much entirely unacceptable for me to be asking those kinds of simple questions that I can respond to about just about every single other midcarder or otherwise on the roster.
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It's all about business. WWE has been doing quite well in India lately so they can capitalize further on that market by making a man of Indian descent their world champion and giving him a major push.
So then give him a push, but that doesn't mean give him the title, especially not immediately, and especially not when he was at the time a complete and total jobber. Hell, even when JBL was thrust into the main event scene in 2004 and given the belt as suddenly as it felt, even then, Bradshaw at that point at least wasn't a jobber, even if he hadn't done much outside of the midcard.

But Jinder never even played in the midcard, not for a second. He went from nothing, nobody, just another body to fill out a few minutes of a 3 hour long Raw to give a W to somebody we actually knew and cared about, and then immediately disappear again afterwards without so much as a second thought from a single person either in the arena or watching at home. That's all he was. Just someone on the roster who's sole contribution was literally that he existed. And now, he's the top champion of the entire company. Like, how about a gradual build? How about, maybe start off by giving him that feud for the US title, and let AJ tackle with Randy over the top belt for the time being? Maybe allow Jinder some time to grow, some time for the audience to actually get to know him, not just as a character, but as a performer.

'Cause really, what is Jinder Mahal's wrestling style, even? What are his signature moves? What is his finishing move? These are all questions that I legitimately don't know the answers to. And considering this is now the top champion in the company, that's pretty much entirely unacceptable for me to be asking those kinds of simple questions that I can respond to about just about every single other midcarder or otherwise on the roster.
I don't disagree with anything you've said, but Fromage hit the nail on the head: WWE sees India as an untapped market to make money from and Jinder Mahal is the only Indian guy on their roster.

Yeah, that's just classic exploitation, but if people in India or of Indian heritage are that gullible that they'll spend money to see a guy who looks and sounds like them, okay, congrats WWE you made money, but at what expense? Now, your fans the world over can't take your product seriously if you randomly decide to take a loser who has never stood out other than being one of the guys from 3MB, who now looks like Steve Rogers after he went through the procedure to become Captain America.

I mean, you push the whole Wellness stuff and suspend and even fire people that have repeatedly violated the policy, but then you put the company's major title on a guy who's clearly using banned substances to pump himself up? That's a double standard and now your telling guys like Heath Slater, Dolph Ziggler, Shinsuke Nakamura, etc. that to get the title, you gotta look like He-Man after a workout.

Then there's the issue with how Jinder was a total nobody who got elevated into the main event in a matter of weeks. You covered that enough already, so there's nothing more to say other than I agree.

I think the point of Jinder winning from a Creative standpoint is that he was a loser that needed the aid of multiple people to help him win. Now when Jinder is in a steel cage or the Singh Bros. are banned from ringside, can Jinder pull off a win or is he really the loser he's always been?

Whatever WWE does from here on with Jinder as champ, the one thing that it's completely destroyed is how people within the company can move up the card. Basically, there's nothing you can do to go up the card other than to juice like it's the 1980's again or wait until WWE decides that you're useful for something. You can put in the best work and effort with your promos, dialogue, matches, etc., but in the end if WWE doesn't see money in you, you don't go anywhere no matter how over you are with the audience.
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