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| T-Unit | Jun 15 2018, 01:28:02 AM Post #9241 |
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Alright, that's it. Somebody go into detail why Punk is a POS or else you're gonna lose respect points from me. |
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| Crusader | Jun 15 2018, 01:41:57 AM Post #9242 |
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He's a POS because he didn't make me look strong. |
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| Fromage | Jun 15 2018, 01:53:37 AM Post #9243 |
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They feel that way because they are Coca-Cola fans. |
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| TGM | Jun 15 2018, 08:55:38 PM Post #9244 |
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In regards to Punk, in addition to all the other stories about him just generally being an absolute dick to people, the Corey Graves stuff that went down on twitter was sort of a last straw deal for me. I've dealt with those types of people before, and I absolutely hate the shit out of them. That's just such a piece of shit thing to do to people who care about you, and there's enough stories about him doing precisely this same sorta thing to people over the years where I've just had enough of it. Fuck him as a human being. Even beyond that though, his performance in that last UFC fight was a fucking embarrassment not only on him, but the entire wrestling industry. He couldn't even hang with a nobody jobber in UFC. Hell, the dude was fucking toying with him. And yet this guy's supposed to be taken seriously as world championship material? Not only does he de-legitimize his entire run, he makes everybody who's ever lost to him look like just as much of a joke as he does right now. And hell, let's say he does return to wrestling at some point. Am I really supposed to take this guy seriously? This guy, who couldn't even hang with the bottom of the barrel in the legitimate fighting arena? Yeah, no, the dude is officially a 100% joke after that fight. If he had went down to a quick punch or submission like his first fight, you could write it off as the other guy getting a lucky one over him. But that's not what happened. What happened was that he was completely and totally exposed for the all-talk hack that he is, who can't back a lick of it up when it comes to real life. He's an absolute joke, as both a person, and a competitor. People keep going on about how "brave" he was for stepping in there, how "inspiring" it is to see him chasing his dreams. Shit, there's not a god damn thing inspiring or brave about Punk's run. He was a recognizable name who brought money and eyes onto the product, and was given a shot that anybody would have taken for that amount of money. And how many fighters who can actually fight got looked over in favor of this self centered, self righteous son of a bitch? WWE may have done him wrong, as they've done a lot of people wrong. But he's also done a hell of a lot of other people wrong himself, so as a person, he really has no room at all to talk, and as a competitor, yeah, he single handedly made wrestling as a whole look even more pathetic than it already does in this day and age. Sure, it might've been a bigger deal a couple decades ago, but it still exposes the business in a way where it really shows that these guys in the ring aren't able to back it up and kick some real ass when it counts. It makes this shit look stupid and, here comes that F word, fake. If ever he was in any consideration for a Hall of Fame spot for him at some point, I would hope that his abhorrent UFC run would be enough to ever remove that idea from anyone's head. |
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| Fromage | Jun 15 2018, 10:52:35 PM Post #9245 |
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I may not feel quite the same way about him personally, but it is hard to argue or dismiss the points you brought up. But I don't necessary feel his losses have damaged the wrestling business all that much though because nobody ever really gave him a chance to succeed at UFC. He was expected to fail. And I think it would be like that for any pro wrestler unless they had a legit background in some sort of martial art (like Lesnar and his wrestling). A lot of the men and women that are currently in the UFC grew up studying some form of martial arts and have added onto that through their career to become well-rounded fighters. So I think it would be difficult for any outsider to just step into the UFC and succeed without a preexisting MMA foundation to build upon. Even if a football player fought in UFC and got beat up doesn't mean the NFL isn't tough and all players are weak, it just means being in MMA is really difficult. |
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| TGM | Jun 15 2018, 11:35:21 PM Post #9246 |
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The difference is though that nobody questions the athletic legitimacy of an NFL player, but they do quite often question the legitimacy of wrestling and wrestlers. That, plus the NFL or other such sports aren't inherently one on one combat-based, whereas wrestling is, if more in a simulated format. And as such, the UFC is oftentimes comparatively considered direct competition to WWE and other wrestling promotions due to their similarities in that regard. Also, keep in mind that it wasn't just any wrestler who went to the UFC and made a complete fool of himself. It was one of the top stars in the entire industry, and a former multi-time world champion. Someone who's supposed to be the best of the best in the sport. And he went to the competition, and he showed what the best of wrestling looks like when put in the cage against someone on the far lower end of the card in MMA, which wasn't good. At all. I'm not so sure he was even entirely set up for failure either, when you consider who he was put against. He wasn't faced off against top talent, and his second bout was against the guy who originally lost out on the opportunity to fight him in the first place. So going in, it was already a battle of the losers, and even then, he came out looking like a chump. But point being, they pitted him against lower-tier guys to start off with, and they even gave him that second shot to prove himself, even though he totally should've never gotten it. If he wasn't even ready for that level, then he should've never even been allowed to compete at all, but it's not like they placed him against top big name guys in the company. Thing is though, unlike the NFL or other sports, UFC is often looked at as competition to the WWE. And CM Punk single handedly made the WWE and wrestling as a whole look like a joke when compared to their competition. If it were another wrestler who wasn't considered a top guy in the wrestling industry, it might not look so bad. But when it's the guy who's supposed to be the "best in the world", it really makes everyone else still there look lesser for it, IMO. |
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| TGM | Jun 15 2018, 11:52:15 PM Post #9247 |
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Or alternatively, it can be looked at as an argument in favor of WWE's decision to hold him back at times. After all, the guy legitimately can't hang, so why should he be booked to look like he can? And sure, plenty of guys on the roster probably also can't hang in a legit fight. But the difference is, there doesn't exist widely broadcasted proof of such, like there does for Punk. |
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| T-Unit | Jun 16 2018, 03:58:45 AM Post #9248 |
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Punk took advantage of his status and got himself a multi fight UFC contract. Dana White is a businessman, he saw that Punk was a hot commodity at the time. Punk realizes it's all about money, he used that to get the UFC deal, but you can't say he didn't try in his fights. He's just a terrible MMA fighter who has no business doing it any longer, especially at 40 years old. Which is another point: Punk is not a spring chicken in top health. His time in wrestling has taken a toll on him and he was never that much of an athlete. Lesnar was, Lesnar used his time in WWE to his advantage in UFC, then used his time in UFC to get a better deal from WWE. But after Lesnar's drug disaster a few years ago, IDK if he was clean for any of his fights now. Punk we know was because he's drug free. Even though Punk is a loser in UFC, he's still the most over guy in wrestling because he calls out Vince and WWE's bullshit. And don't start making excuses why WWE held Punk back, they did that because Cena was the guy and the feud with The Rock was money. WWE was never going to trade Cena for Punk as the top wrestler in the company. They would now because Cena isn't around much anymore. The point to wrestling is to use it to raise your status and use that for future work. |
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| TGM | Jun 16 2018, 07:54:14 AM Post #9249 |
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Aside for the WWE holding Punk back (which was brought up more in jest than anything else), none of that really counters any of my points against Punk, though. |
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| pokajabba | Jun 16 2018, 09:13:47 AM Post #9250 |
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| pokajabba | Jun 16 2018, 06:57:55 PM Post #9251 |
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| Static | Jun 16 2018, 09:02:04 PM Post #9252 |
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Trips getting buried down under. 
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| TGM | Jun 16 2018, 10:50:45 PM Post #9253 |
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| T-Unit | Jun 18 2018, 12:29:37 AM Post #9254 |
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Rumor mill is that Roman will be challenging Brock for the title, AGAIN, at SummerSlam and it looks like it won't be in any type of gimmick match, just straight up one fall singles match. It's stupid, but I guess Vince thinks we're going to cheer for Roman after he beats Jinder some more at Extreme Rules. My guess is that Roman will beat Brock with Braun Strowman's help, then immediately after Roman wins, Braun is going to attack Roman and cash in successfully. Braun knows that he can't beat Brock one on one, but he's dealt with Roman before. Besides, he's still not finished with him yet. |
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| pokajabba | Jun 19 2018, 05:23:51 PM Post #9255 |
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[twitter=https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1009147537268314119] |
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| Fromage | Jun 19 2018, 07:33:36 PM Post #9256 |
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He's 7 feet tall and unemployed, you can't teach that. 
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| Fromage | Jun 19 2018, 07:48:14 PM Post #9257 |
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And then there was one.
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| TGM | Jun 19 2018, 10:22:40 PM Post #9258 |
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I bet he regrets beating up that midget now. 
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| T-Unit | Jun 20 2018, 03:39:47 AM Post #9259 |
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I'm not so sure that Cass got released because he's done something wrong, but more that WWE has absolutely nothing for him currently and instead of him flailing around at the bottom of the card, they just let him go and I think that's a good thing because without Enzo, Cass doesn't have that attention getting factor. I think in a year or two, both Cass and Enzo are going to be back in WWE. A lot of time and money was put into Cass, so I don't for a moment believe that he's gone for good. |
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| pokajabba | Jun 20 2018, 06:55:34 AM Post #9260 |
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That dissolve effect reminds me of the Super Mario Bros. movie where they get transported through the wall. 
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