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| WrestleMania 33 - April 2, 2017; Redders and TGM are Going to Wrestlemania! | |
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| ToTheBank | Apr 3 2017, 03:39:27 PM Post #1121 |
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Reading the chat here... What was so bad about the Taker match? He fought as much as he could, but the next big thing was too much for the aged hero. Beautiful storytelling in my eyes. Taker did the job to help make Roman strong bc that's what the company wants. I hate that Roman is their guy as much as anyone else, but this was the right story and outcome. The real main event was Taker's unofficial retirement. That was the best closing we will ever get to a WM. I'm very biased though |
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| Fromage | Apr 3 2017, 06:45:51 PM Post #1122 |
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That's what being a fan is all about. For the longest time I've felt that Undertaker is a legitimate legend that has the respect of everyone he's ever crossed paths with, and he's done it all so to me he can do whatever the fuck he wants. I'm not gonna mock the way he looks, how he moves in the ring at 52 years old or his entrance walk because his entrance has always been awesome. I didn't enjoy watching this monster who has been a badass for so get beat down, but the tradition is to give back when your time is up and that's what he did. I just would have preferred it been someone else as Roman didn't need to be that guy. As Bray Wyatt once said 'anyone but you, Roman'. |
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| Fromage | Apr 3 2017, 06:51:26 PM Post #1123 |
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Also I think it's pretty badass that as people left and everything was being disassembled they didn't touch Undertaker's gear. They left it in the ring. [twitter=https://twitter.com/SteveTSN/status/848756804481945601] |
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| TGM | Apr 3 2017, 06:55:44 PM Post #1124 |
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| T-Unit | Apr 3 2017, 07:03:09 PM Post #1125 |
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Because this is the thing in WWE today: Bigger is better. A longer show is better. More announcers the better. They are in such a one track mindset about content for the WWE Network that they think the same thing applies to the product itself. That's why there were so many multi person matches on the card last night compared to about half dozen singles matches. |
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| Fromage | Apr 3 2017, 07:13:15 PM Post #1126 |
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Cpman isn't going to be happy about this but Triple H now holds the record for most Wrestlemania losses at 12! |
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| T-Unit | Apr 3 2017, 07:14:49 PM Post #1127 |
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The thing about Taker's match is that it wasn't a good performence largely in part due to Taker's condition; forever people will see his last match as an old man who could hardly move against an unpopular wrestler that's been forced onto the fans as though he's the #1 wrestler in the company. Reigns is not the best in any one category that you can rate a wrestler as besides the boos he gets, boos which are supposed to be for heel wrestlers, not the top babyface. Because Reigns is not the best promo, worker, spot caller, most athletic, or comes off as the most badass, he's not "The Guy" he's just... A Guy. He's a guy that's decent, but not great and the top star in a wrestling promotion should be great, not fair or average. So, the issue really revolves around Roman and the way he's booked as opposed to Undertaker's ability to work a match. I just feel that had Taker worked with a smaller guy like an AJ Styles or Danial Bryan, the match would have been better. And had it been against John Cena, I think for as much as people dislike Cena, I think him being Taker's last match would have gone over better because Cena's an established guy that could really sell the concept of "I beat the Undertaker not because I wanted to or could, but because I could be the most graceful knowing I was his last opponent in his last match." Roman's just gonna walk out tonight, be a cocky prick, say he's "Not just The Guy now, but also The Big Dog who owns this yard." Then Michael Cole will chime in and confirm that by constantly reminding us during EVERY FUCKING REIGNS MATCH for the rest of his career that Reigns "finished the Undertaker." Reigns didn't "finish" Undertaker or claim some invisible throne, Age and time did that. EDIT: And more than that, Reigns is going to beat Lesnar for the Universal title later this year. That will mean Reigns blew through Strowman, Undertaker, and Lesnar in one year's time and I'm not sure if Reigns will face Lesnar at Mania next year or if it'll be John Cena. Whoever it is, Reigns will win that match too, unless he pulls a hernia or pops some Ritalin. Edited by T-Unit, Apr 3 2017, 07:19:01 PM.
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| pokajabba | Apr 3 2017, 10:00:35 PM Post #1128 |
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Well, for starters, one could make the argument there was barely any flow to the match, especially during the second half once Reigns began hitting all of his big moves over and over again. It just felt like they had nothing to offer in terms of in-ring chemistry, so instead decided to throw out finishers one after another, as though they wanted you to think there was more going on than there actually was. I also don't tend to enjoy it when the announcers feel the need to constantly jam the ''importance'' of what's going on down my throat, and much prefer for that sensation to come naturally, be it through the storytelling and progression of the match itself, or from the events leading up to it. Not even Jim Ross was able to ''sell'' me on the significance of this particular encounter, which quickly became an annoyance throughout the early goings, where it just felt as though everybody, both in the ring and on commentary, were grasping at straws to make this main event work. I mean, it got to the point where it sounded like JR himself began to doubt the match, and was having difficulty piecing it all together. Don't get me wrong here, I'm glad you enjoyed it and everything, it's certainly not my intention to take that away from you. I just don't believe it was a very good main event, nor did I find the story compelling in the slightest. The right person may have won it, but I wouldn't exactly call it the most successful transition. But hey, at least Taker got to say farewell after the match, which I will admit was a pretty nice moment overall, despite not feeling quite as powerful as that one he had with Triple H and Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania 28. |
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| T-Unit | Apr 3 2017, 11:25:35 PM Post #1129 |
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Yeah, JR's involvement made no difference selling the match as anything more than another match. I can't blame JR too much on that tho because WWE really failed during the build up to it. Here, listen to this and you'll understand: |
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| ToTheBank | Apr 4 2017, 12:10:18 AM Post #1130 |
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Good insight from all. I still feel how I do and respect what you guys are saying |
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| pokajabba | Apr 4 2017, 12:17:41 PM Post #1131 |
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Fast Count Wrestlemania Review Special: Spoiler: click to toggle
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| pokajabba | Apr 5 2017, 12:54:25 PM Post #1132 |
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| Mcdoe | Apr 5 2017, 01:51:52 PM Post #1133 |
Who doesn't want to be Tyrion?
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This is why I have continued to lambaste the WWE's decision to not have his final match against JC. I think rather than completely beating and destroying him, they could have had it against a man who has the ability to carry him when he gets tired, to make him look better than he did. Maybe the whole idea of the booking was to show that he was finish but, it was not a comfortable match to watch. |
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| pokajabba | Apr 5 2017, 11:47:53 PM Post #1134 |
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| pokajabba | Apr 5 2017, 11:50:16 PM Post #1135 |
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| pokajabba | Apr 5 2017, 11:54:12 PM Post #1136 |
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| pokajabba | Apr 6 2017, 01:43:09 PM Post #1137 |
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Dave Meltzer's match ratings for WrestleMania 33: Neville vs. Austin Aries (WWE Cruiserweight Title) - *** 3/4 Battle Royal for the André the Giant Memorial Trophy - ** Dean Ambrose vs. Baron Corbin (WWE Intercontinental Title) - ** A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon - **** Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho (WWE United States Title) - *** 1/2 Bayley vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks (WWE Raw Women's Title) - *** 1/4 Fatal 4-Way Tag Team Ladder Match (WWE Raw Tag Team Championship) - *** 3/4 John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. Maryse & The Miz - ** 1/4 Seth Rollins vs. Triple H (Unsanctioned) - *** 1/2 Randy Orton vs. Bray Wyatt (WWE World Title) - * 1/4 Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg (WWE Universal Title) - *** 1/2 Naomi vs. Alexa Bliss vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya (WWE SmackDown Women's Championship) - * 1/2 Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker (No Holds Barred) - *** |
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| Static | Apr 6 2017, 05:24:11 PM Post #1138 |
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^ His Goldberg/Lesnar and Taker/Reigns ratings are too high. And the SD Women's title match was better than Orton/Wyatt. The Orton/Wyatt match was the worst Mania match. |
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| Redders | Apr 6 2017, 05:38:15 PM Post #1139 |
It's already been booked - I got a great deal on Priceline!
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Over 4,000 miles traveled to be there. Totally worth it. We were sat TV side, just off and up a bit to the left of the hard camera - which was highly unpleasant during the pre-show as the sun was right in our direction and incredibly hot. Luckily by the time Ambrose/Corbin finished it had clouded over, so it wasn't anywhere near as bad then. Absolutely none of us (including the people sat around us) understood Mojo winning the ATGMBR. My chants of "Who Are Ya?" to the NFL player were met with explanations from Americans around us... yet still agreed "who?" was an appropriate response to him. The flyover was SO GODDAMNED LOUD. The fireworks were absolutely nothing by comparison. New Day's opening segment was funny, for what we could hear. The chants were rather loud so we missed some of the jokes happening. There was a massive gasp of shock from the crowd Styles/Shane was first, but it was a great opener. Amazing reaction to Shane's attempt at the SSP as well. Owens/Y2J was a calm down for the crowd following that match, but a big pop for the inflatable List of Jericho which was loved. The Raw Women's Title Match was very odd indeed, and wasn't well received with us. Nowhere near the quality of last year, and Bayley winning without even using her finisher came off as weird too. Easily the biggest pop of the night was Hardyz returning. Watching it back on TV - what you heard was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to how loud and deafening it was. I literally felt the arena shake. Has to be one of the biggest moments I've ever been a part of. Seriously, it was unbelievable. That's the moment of the evening for sure. While it was nice to cheer on Miz and Maryse, it's a shame it was a relatively squash match. Again it didn't come off well on TV (seems they upped one screaming, happy girl) but the general reaction was loud boos and "NO!" chants to the proposal. Seth/Triple H dragged on a bit for me, especially for a non-sanctioned match that ended up being much more of a regular match than it should've. Double pop for the Steph bump from the crowd, once for being hit and then the 2nd once we realised she went through the table. Match could've - and should've - been more though. Oddly, the people around me actually enjoyed the music performance. Generally everyone sang along with the LunchMoney Lewis "Oh-Oh-Oh" part of the theme even when used for the match cards etc., but I was surrounded by those who really enjoyed both songs. I wasn't expecting that. No surprise for you guys to hear I was gutted about Bray losing the title (especially with the mind games being played that - apparently - didn't freak out Orton that much given he still won). Sadly not a shock given Bray's reign, annoyingly - had a great win in the Chamber, a brilliant win in the triple threat straight after - then he didn't have another match until 5 days before WrestleMania. I felt he was building steam even for a face turn (especially after the triple threat) for it to just be thrown away with him not really doing anything. (Yes, of course I took a photo of the entrance - those pics will be coming soon) While I had no interest in Lesnar/Goldberg given the title was taking a hiatus whoever won, I'll admit the match was good (even if it was a real-life replica of SmackDown! games with each person having all 5 finishers stored to begin with). Goldberg himself the following night said he thinks it's made up for the debacle of 20. Naomi's win was expected to be fair, but it was a nice crowd pop for her on her entrance and as she won the title. Glad she did get her moment. Main event. So, watching it back on the Network when I got home it seems the commentators tried the whole emotion angle with Roman about having to put away Undertaker. We literally didn't feel that at all. Just came across as a guy trying to win as normal. Reigns kept botching which didn't help his cause, either. Reigns winning was the right result, but it just felt flat as he kept making mistakes. Undertaker's last ride at the end was a tough one though. Man tears had to be held back. I wanted to go for the main reason of watching Undertaker live - and I did, on what seems to be his last match. From a friend who's done it twice before, I was told about the Tailgate Party that follows after WrestleMania - no such thing for us. No one was really speaking. Thousands of people walking back to their vehicles just... saying nothing. It was a strange atmosphere for sure. |
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| The_Great_One2 | Apr 7 2017, 09:53:31 AM Post #1140 |
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TGO2 did it again. Everything he wrote weeks before Mania came true. 'Nuff Said. |
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