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| Pure | May 21 2014, 05:23:09 PM Post #441 |
Brock Lesnar
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I love everything about the debut of Hall/Nash/Hogan heel turn. |
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| The_Dude | May 21 2014, 05:25:06 PM Post #442 |
Rob Van Dam
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Rock and Sock or the Outlaws. I can't say I actually remember ANY Rock and Sock matches (excluding WrestleMania XX). I remember their segments, I don't remember their matches. Outlaws were a hot act during a hot period, no doubt. Everybody still remember Road Dogg's intro. They can't lace the Harts' boots. I mean what does it say that most of the highlights for Demolition, the Rockers, and the Bulldogs are of them WRESTLING THE HARTS. They were the top team of LOADED tag team divisions and did it both as faces and heels (Bulldogs and Hardyz and Rockers can't make that claim). The Hart Foundation caused the fuckin' Mega Powers to form. |
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| Pure | May 21 2014, 05:26:29 PM Post #443 |
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Brock Lesnar
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I'd keep Rock/Sock in the list, but not over The Dudley Boyz. |
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| The_Dude | May 21 2014, 05:30:23 PM Post #444 |
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Rob Van Dam
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I don't know how much of this is out of disdain of what the Hardys became because they were without a doubt my favorite of the TLC teams, but I absolutely flip the Hardyz with the Dudleyz. The Dudleyz just flat out do not get enough credit for what they were in ECW. |
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| Pure | May 21 2014, 05:33:05 PM Post #445 |
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Brock Lesnar
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I have no disdain for The Hardyz and I agree with the flipping of positions between the two teams. |
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| The_Dude | May 21 2014, 05:33:47 PM Post #446 |
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Rob Van Dam
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I don't put the Hardys over the Rockers. The pale imitations should not be higher than their inspirations. ... ... ... And this is why fans should not be allowed to vote for ANYTHING! |
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| JML | May 21 2014, 05:34:39 PM Post #447 |
 
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How do you even vote on these countdown lists by the way? Is there something on the website? |
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| Pure | May 21 2014, 05:35:32 PM Post #448 |
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Brock Lesnar
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You'd just put The Rockers at #1. You'd even list it as: 1. The Rockers (MARTY JANNETTY and shawn michaels) |
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| The_Dude | May 21 2014, 05:37:16 PM Post #449 |
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Rob Van Dam
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Hell if I know. I just know WWE keeps emphasizing that these lists are our fault. ... Although I don't think they phrase it that way. |
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| kkirbyyi_ | May 21 2014, 05:38:36 PM Post #450 |
~Jung Nicholas 정니콜라스
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@The_Dude, may I make a suggestion? Why not compile your own list of greatest tag-teams (and anything else for that matter) for a more accurate and favourable depiction of the wrestling world? I can add to to our forum's Games & Features Archive. 
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Ladies and Gentlemen. . . Can I have some decorum, please? I'm afraid I have some BAD NEWS! #BadNewsKirby 7.22.14 | |
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| kkirbyyi_ | May 21 2014, 05:39:21 PM Post #451 |
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~Jung Nicholas 정니콜라스
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Haven't you learned? You have to download the WWE App. 
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Ladies and Gentlemen. . . Can I have some decorum, please? I'm afraid I have some BAD NEWS! #BadNewsKirby 7.22.14 | |
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| The_Last_Ride | May 23 2014, 04:53:11 AM Post #452 |
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Beer Money
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Because John Cena... |
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| JML | May 29 2014, 09:33:44 AM Post #453 |
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WWE Countdown top factions: 1: D-Generation X 2: The Brood 3: n.W.o 4: The Four Horsemen 5: Evolution 6: The Hart Foundation 7: The Corporation 8: The Nation of Domination 9: The Dangerous Alliance 10: The Heenan Family  The Brood had a cool entrance but...they were a lower midcard faction for the most part Edited by JML, May 29 2014, 09:35:14 AM.
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| Pure | May 29 2014, 04:17:51 PM Post #454 |
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Brock Lesnar
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lol @ The Brood #2 |
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| Fullmetalwwant | May 29 2014, 04:29:50 PM Post #455 |
About 20% Cooler
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Man, I think The Brood is nice, but not that high on the list |
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| Crulex | May 29 2014, 06:48:33 PM Post #456 |
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I loved the Brood and all, but higher than Evolution, Corporation and NWO? What? And I can understand Shield and Wyatts not being on the list because they are newer and the list was probably made last year, but where the hell was the Ministry!? There is no excuse for that.
Edited by Crulex, May 29 2014, 06:51:55 PM.
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| JML | May 29 2014, 07:08:06 PM Post #457 |
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I think Four Horsemen and NWO should have been 1/2. I think those two were easily the two most important stables ever. (I love The Shield - they're a really talented and entertaining group, but they aren't as essential to their company as those previous two stables were to theirs). D-X are arguable but they were kindof a midcard comedy stable for the most of their run. They should definitely be on the list but 1? Ehhhh I don't know how someone can even defend putting Brood at 2 Edited by JML, May 29 2014, 07:12:29 PM.
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| kkirbyyi_ | May 29 2014, 07:29:49 PM Post #458 |
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Honestly, it just seems like the WWE is padding their ego by having both DX and The Brood in the #1 & #2 spots to reinforce the glory days of the Attitude era. I think everyone can agree that The Brood was fun to watch, but as far as being a significant faction, they just don't compare to the likes of The Four Horsemen, nWo, etc. Edge & Christian accomplished way more as a tag-team than they did as a unit with Gangrel. Speaking of which, the guy couldn't even stay relevant once the group broke up. He wasn't the star the WWE thought he could be and I think his failures really put into perspective the legacy of The Brood as a whole. Great presentation, not much substance. |
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Ladies and Gentlemen. . . Can I have some decorum, please? I'm afraid I have some BAD NEWS! #BadNewsKirby 7.22.14 | |
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| JML | May 29 2014, 07:35:50 PM Post #459 |
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As evidenced by their first promo with a live mic which was A W F U L (skip to 0:40) |
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| The_Dude | May 29 2014, 07:44:43 PM Post #460 |
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Rob Van Dam
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If The Brood are #2, is Kaientai an honorable mention? 3MB and X-Factor in the top 15? Yeah, cool entrance and Edge and Christian went on to do great things, but those two elements weren't related. E and C didn't break out until after losing Gangrel and being allowed to show their personalities. The Brood also stands as one of the most underdeveloped stories WWE has bothered not to tell. As I recall, they never bothered to actually delved in to the history between Edge and Gangrel, why they were split, how Christian fell under Gangrel's sway which brought Edge back in to the fold. It all could have made for a decently interesting midcard story, but instead they got lost in the majesty of the Corporate Ministry, forgotten, rediscovered for the Terri Invitation Tournament (Oh you Attitude Era and your "clever" acronyms), and then turned into obnoxiously entertaining goofballs. Outside of that idiocy (Fans should not vote for anything), I don't think I have too much of a problem with the list, just the ordering. Now, this idiot fan will tell you his rankings: 1. nWo: In order to choke on your own success, you have to have success. The nWo got too big and ridiculous under the weight of it's own success, but I give it this spot because, IMO, it did what TNA claimed it would do about every three weeks or so and changed the face of wrestling. It may be a stretch to call the nWo the beginning of the Attitude Era, it may not have been the spark that set it off, but I do think it was the lighter fluid upon which that spark caught fire. 2. The Shield: Maybe I'm going a bit too high because they are the present and future and there's as much of a habit to love on things that are recent as there us to wax poetic about the past (hence why matches from January and February rarely maintain traction when it comes MOTY time). However, where I overlook flaws in the nWo for their historical signficance, I overlook flaws in the Shield on the strenth of their matches. Also, you have to give the Shield this, they have worked themselves into main events as a unit, whereas most factions either stick to the midcard or have a clear main eventer (Yes, you can dispute that with Reigns, but compare Reigns in the Shield to Trips in DX (the 98 version), the Rock in NOD and Corporation, Hogan in the nWo, Flair in the Horsemen, Bray Wyatt in the Wyatt Family (unfortunately)). 3. Four Horsemen: I'm not the biggest WCW guy, especially when the Horsemen were in their prime, still I'll give them their props at #3. 4. DX: If I were to talk about DX purely from 97-99 (I suppose they kind of tenously hung on through the McMahon-Helmsley era), I would probably be inclined to put them at 3 or maybe even 2. However, the midlife crisis drags DX down considerably in my esteem. If it was just the one midlife crisis in 06, I might still forgive despite how awful it was, but every couple of years, WWE has been beating that horse's corpse to diminishing returns. 5. Corporation: Gave purpose to what really wasn't the world's greatest set of heels. They made for good antagonists for a pretty decent run. 6. Nation of Domination: I really thought about putting the Nation at 5. Overall, I think they don't get their due. The Nation hung around for a really long time and was really kind of the midcard's backbone for years. They were perfect foils for the golden age of DX. I don't think the Nation gets its due for helping the Rock break out. 7. The Hart Foundation (I assume this is referring to the 97 incaration and not Jimmy Hart's stable of wrestlers in the 80s, including luminaries like "Dangerous" Danny Davis and the Honkey Tonk Man): Had I been in to wrestling at the time, I totally would have been on the Harts' side. I'm really only docking them for brevity. However, they deserve a spot on the list for the Canadian Stampede match, if nothinge else. That match fucking rules. 8. Generation Next: You're just fortunate I made it this far before delving into my indie darling team. Some GenNext stuff doesn't age too well (their debut, for instance, in the fucking tent is still really good, but HOLY SHIT did those guys get better. A lot still holds up (Embassy-GenNext stuff, IMO). GenNext took 3 guys I didn't know and Alex Shelley and made me into a lifelong fan of all of them (if only, if only Austin Aires was a few inches taller) 9. Heenan Family: See the Corporation. 10. The Wyatt Family: Luke Harper, man, Luke Harper. |
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